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Topic: Review rating
Posted: November 21 2007 at 20:21

Just wanted to clarify sth that has to deal with review ratings

there are two topics that deal with review ratings coming from simple ratings, members' reviews and collabs' reviews

I certainly realise that one of them is more recent but wanted to clarify which is valid for people not to become misunderstood when reviewing an album, because there is controversial info about reviews counting methodology

maybe some of the info needs to be edited in one of the topics

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http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13152

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21626

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Posted: November 22 2007 at 04:39

The site rules and guidelines section will always contain the current information.

Cheers!

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Posted: November 22 2007 at 06:23

now I'm more confused Ermm

what about this improvement to the site??? it is not valid??

The site will therefore implement the following policies:

All existing ratings without reviews will be retained in the database
Ratings without reviews will continue to be accepted (subject to compulsory registration with the forum as described above)
Ratings with reviews (of over 200 characters - note this is characters, not words) will have a value of double those without a review.
Ratings with reviews by Prog Reviewers and Special Collaborators will have a value of three times the value of a rating without review

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Posted: November 22 2007 at 11:36

Entirely valid still, but the multipliers in the third and fourth points have since been increased.

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Posted: November 22 2007 at 14:26

thanks

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Posted: November 23 2007 at 06:15

I thought this thread was going to be about the possibilty of rating reviews - so a highly rated review would count more towards an album's chart position.

I think that's a good idea (that this thread has sparked

) - anyone else like it?

The important thing is not to stop questioning.

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Posted: November 23 2007 at 06:23

^ I think it would be a good idea to simply add a "binary" rating for the reviews:

Option 1: I think this review is valid and helpful
Option 2: I think this review is misguiding and not helpful

(similarly to Amazon.com)

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Posted: November 23 2007 at 06:37

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ I think it would be a good idea to simply add a "binary" rating for the reviews:

Option 1: I think this review is valid and helpful
Option 2: I think this review is misguiding and not helpful

(similarly to Amazon.com)

Why binary, out of interest?

Wouldn't it be better to be able to rate the reviews in the same way as the albums;

5 stars: This review is a masterpiece and extremely helpful

4 stars: This review is essential reading for fans of this album

3 stars: Good review

2 stars: Review for collectors and fans of this music only

1 star: Poor review

Just a thought - obviously I'm being a bit flippant with the actual text - but I think the concept is reasonable.

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Posted: November 23 2007 at 06:45

So which one of us is the RatingFreak? Wink

BTW: I don't know if you noticed - in the other thread I mentioned that I created the tag "Microtonal" on my website. I'd be glad if you could tag some albums accordingly ... Smile

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Posted: November 23 2007 at 07:59

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ LOL

So which one of us is the RatingFreak? Wink

BTW: I don't know if you noticed - in the other thread I mentioned that I created the tag "Microtonal" on my website. I'd be glad if you could tag some albums accordingly ... Smile

Just trying to be consistent in approach - and you made the (valid) comparison to Amazon.

This way a user could sort reviews and find those which could be most helpful - useful, if an album has many reviews.

It could also be used to rank reviewers in ways other than greatest number - who knows, it might even knock Sean from his unassailable perch...

The important thing is not to stop questioning.

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Posted: November 23 2007 at 08:15

Certif1ed wrote:

I thought this thread was going to be about the possibility of rating reviews - so a highly rated review would count more towards an album's chart position.

I think that's a good idea (that this thread has sparked

) - anyone else like it?

actually it sounds like a great 'rating freak' Wink

idea
but this will get too complicated in rating albums... Wacko

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Posted: November 23 2007 at 09:14

aapatsos wrote:

Certif1ed wrote:

I thought this thread was going to be about the possibility of rating reviews - so a highly rated review would count more towards an album's chart position.

I think that's a good idea (that this thread has sparked

) - anyone else like it?

actually it sounds like a great 'rating freak' Wink

idea
but this will get too complicated in rating albums... Wacko

The more I think about it, the more I think it might be more useful to have this as separate to the album's chart position - just because a review is good, it doesn't mean that the album is better for it.

But being able to quickly see reviews that others have found helpful would be a useful feature - don't you think?

Note that in my 5 star system, there is only one "Poor" or bad rating - just as with the album ratings - obviously we don't want to rate anyone's review as poor, unless it really is, and the other markings reflect this by showing levels of helpfulness, rather than any indication of other qualities.

The important thing is not to stop questioning.

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Posted: November 23 2007 at 11:05

I think it's enough to have two ratings:

* good review

* bad review

You click the former for reviews that really impress you and the latter for reviews that come across as really inconsistent or come close to not meeting the guidelines. That way you could leave most of the 'average' reviews unrated.

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Posted: November 23 2007 at 13:17

I would rather go with Mike's idea if the thought is to be implemented
good/bad is not a fair discrimination, but helpful/not helpful is appropriate

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Option 1: I think this review is valid and helpful
Option 2: I think this review is misguiding and not helpful