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Points: 66 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2007 at 18:30
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Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

The Gathering ... they're a difficult case, since all their albums are so different from each other. In that case I think it's best to look at their masterpieces - in that case: How to Measure a Planet?. And that album is a really good example of a very calm type of experimentality. I strongly recommend to check out this sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pt7gtWHWTs Big%20smile
I was referring specifically to Souvenirs which pushed the experimentation of How To Measure A Planet? a little further, but either are valid Approve, though I think they'd practically left the world of metal by then.


I think they left them it Souvenirs, but How to Measure a Planet? still has a lot of metal ... stoner metal to be precise. I love that album ... but you have to be in the right mood to enjoy it.
 
Do you have to be stoned to appreciate it? Geek I guess that's why I never got into The Gathering that much. Sleepy
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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2007 at 18:32
This is great! The sub genre was just too big for all those bands, leaving many neglected and hard to find!
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Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

thanks for the heads up Ivan... I'll hunt up some samples... I'm feeling sort of experimentative tonight.
 
The ones on the site should be right up your alley, Micky. I am sure of it, because I sent them myself. Wink Heheh. One could say they are softer than some of their other songs (which aren't particularly messy or aggressive, as I tend to see it).


you know my tastes well Ivan...  I really did like them Clap
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

thanks for the heads up Ivan... I'll hunt up some samples... I'm feeling sort of experimentative tonight.
 
The ones on the site should be right up your alley, Micky. I am sure of it, because I sent them myself. Wink Heheh. One could say they are softer than some of their other songs (which aren't particularly messy or aggressive, as I tend to see it).


you know my tastes well Ivan...  I really did like them Clap
 
Cool. I don't think I know people's tastes well (okay, in regards to some people on this site - I do), I just know mine and assume everybody else shares the same. Glad to hear you enjoyed them, it's one of my favourite bands right now and they're getting better with each release! What's not to like? Wink
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ive been exploring the new genres and have a few questions.

Opeth, Tool, Devin Townsend, and Dead Soul Tribe. experimental/post metal? im not questioning the collabs but im interersted to hear the reasons these bands are included in this category.
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Well, i think that it would rather complicate good old system...
 
If so, why don't we split Progressive Electronic in Ambient Prog, Drone/Noise Prog, Kosmische Prog, ProgAge etc.?
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Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

ive been exploring the new genres and have a few questions.

Opeth, Tool, Devin Townsend, and Dead Soul Tribe. experimental/post metal? im not questioning the collabs but im interersted to hear the reasons these bands are included in this category.


same. What are we leaving regular progressive metal as if these guys are moved?


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WOW, I like the split, I have been looking into the different genres, and there are only two or three bands that I think are in the wrong place!!!!!!!!
 
Great Job You Guys Up At The Post Metal Team
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Originally posted by Thandrus Thandrus wrote:

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Edited by Atavachron - October 22 2007 at 20:18
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Originally posted by Thandrus Thandrus wrote:

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Well, couldn't find a better term for ones like Gandalf, Kitaro, Vangelis and so on...LOL
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Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

I don't like PM, though I'm wondering if it'll be useful to people who don't like the genre as much as (surely) for those who love it. Perhaps it will..... who knows. I'll take a look at the split!!
 
It could be useful to people who generally dislike the genre, as choosing a specific subgroup for your liking and searching for similar artists would lead to discoveries in an area of the genre you would find more pleasant.


In that case, this move sounds good indeed! Big%20smile
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It may not affect me, but I'm glad to see that Prog Metal fans will be able to better find music that they like. 

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Just letting the PMT know that if they need any help with the Post-metal side of the genre then I'm here for you guys.Smile

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Ok, love it now here are some bands that you might want to look into their placement (not trying to be a jurk just want to see evrything in its correct place)
 
Ved Buens Ende
Wintersun
Gojira
 
These should probably be moved to Tech/Extreme
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Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Ok, love it now here are some bands that you might want to look into their placement (not trying to be a jurk just want to see evrything in its correct place)
 
Ved Buens Ende
Wintersun
Gojira
 
These should probably be moved to Tech/Extreme


Here we go.....

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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2007 at 20:44
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Ok, love it now here are some bands that you might want to look into their placement (not trying to be a jurk just want to see evrything in its correct place)
 
Ved Buens Ende
Wintersun
Gojira
 
These should probably be moved to Tech/Extreme


Here we go.....
sorry, they are just some of my favourite bands and so naturally they stook out as being in the wrong genre, really I dont give a f***** what genre this site puts bands in, I just wanted to help a little bit. Even read their bios, they stick out like a sore thumb
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Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

could you let me know about my earlier quesiton, townsend opeth and co. chillin with the post metalers?
 Look at the defonition. They fit under Art Metal
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Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

could you let me know about my earlier quesiton, townsend opeth and co. chillin with the post metalers?
 Look at the defonition. They fit under Art Metal

oops overlooked. thanks Smile .  hmmm i  dont know.  maybe we need to split up the new sub genres. . .  some are a little broad.
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Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

could you let me know about my earlier quesiton, townsend opeth and co. chillin with the post metalers?
 Look at the defonition. They fit under Art Metal
 
Thanks for clarifying that.There are a few bands that are just really hard to pin down to one genre.
 
Do you think Tool are tech/extreme or "classic" prog metal ala DT?
 
Opeth is another really difficult one,they aren't purely tech/extreme(don't let the growls mislead you),so we can't put them there.
 
The definitions might need a little tweaking,and so bands might get misplaced and after some talk,debate and feedback could get placed elsewhere.
 
Please be patient everyone...Rome wasn't built in a day.


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