Announcing the Prog-Metal split

oh and metal archives? this site is made up of something like (dont quote me i have no idea but its close to) 300 or so prog metal bands. this site has well over 3000. 10%.  its still HEAVILY prog rock and the arguements over this "questionable" genre stem from that as there are a lot of people who come to this site who do not appreciate progmetal. Prog metal, as a result, gets a lot of attention in the forums and because of this increased awareness people seem to focus strictly on prog metal and tend to ignore 90% of the site that has nothing to do with the genre at all. its a popular discussion topic but as far as the archives go, not too popular in the overall scheme of things. i wouldnt worry about it.  

darqdean wrote: GoldenSpiral wrote: Actually looking at the front page now, this is pretty helpful.  Unfortunately, it's going to cost me a pretty penny and a good bit of time listening to all the bands in the experimental/post metal section!   I must admit I didn't think experimental/post metal was going to be quite as interesting as it is, but as Jody has just said while I was typing this, the subgenre includes: Experimental Metal Art Metal Post Sludge Metal (Eclectic) Post Metal which is still quite a diverse spread of "metal" subgenres and I'll certainly be concentrating my "metal spend" on the lesser known bands in there.   (any chance of Ulver being moved here????)

darqdean wrote: GoldenSpiral wrote: Actually looking at the front page now, this is pretty helpful.  Unfortunately, it's going to cost me a pretty penny and a good bit of time listening to all the bands in the experimental/post metal section!   I must admit I didn't think experimental/post metal was going to be quite as interesting as it is, but as Jody has just said while I was typing this, the subgenre includes: Experimental Metal Art Metal Post Sludge Metal (Eclectic) Post Metal which is still quite a diverse spread of "metal" subgenres and I'll certainly be concentrating my "metal spend" on the lesser known bands in there.   (any chance of Ulver being moved here????)

Thanks for the postitive responses and feedback,you guys ROCK.

Slartibartfast wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: P.H.P. wrote: ProgBagel wrote: P.H.P. wrote: PA is becoming the new www.metal-archives.com ! oh nooo! EDIT: Since this site is supposed to be a "Prog Rock" oriented site, I don't get the point of doing a split of a very very doubtful genre (in the sense it's too much inclusive with bands that aren't even related to Prog) as Prog Metal is... There was a discussion about naming the site progressive music but we decided to keep it the same. You should already know that, newb. Hahahahahah! ...anyways I think a better name for this site is www.WhatMetalHeadsLikeArchives.com hahahahah!   You are acting like a troll and I suggest being a little more respectful and understanding of other people's tastes here.   I won't warn you again.   Don't make him use the progtoscope on you!

Trickster F. wrote: The T wrote: About the split... Good. Now when it's done, people will realize that prog metal never was a bunch of DT clones... (only 5% of the bands....)......   I've actually never understood that "Prog-Metal is not just about DT clones" argument. Even though I always did lack exposure to such artists due to having no interest in that direction whatsoever, even after having to work with the PMT for what, half a year or so, I could count the amount of times I found a "DT clone" on the chart.   I'd say it's just a myth, DT are so mind-bogglingly big that they appear to people not as one band, but a whole bunch of 'em? Get the hint?

so ... what you are both saying is that after splitting up the subgenre so we can now see the wood for the trees, that there weren't any trees in the first place just one giant sequoia

darqdean wrote: Trickster F. wrote: The T wrote: About the split... Good. Now when it's done, people will realize that prog metal never was a bunch of DT clones... (only 5% of the bands....)......   I've actually never understood that "Prog-Metal is not just about DT clones" argument. Even though I always did lack exposure to such artists due to having no interest in that direction whatsoever, even after having to work with the PMT for what, half a year or so, I could count the amount of times I found a "DT clone" on the chart.   I'd say it's just a myth, DT are so mind-bogglingly big that they appear to people not as one band, but a whole bunch of 'em? Get the hint? so ... what you are both saying is that after splitting up the subgenre so we can now see the wood for the trees, that there weren't any trees in the first place just one giant sequoia

darqdean wrote: The T wrote: There's no sense in that.  Well, about the post, there ARE  a few DT clones (yes, I RECOGNIZE it...).... Just hear Lemur Voice's debut.... but there are few, and far between... And now people will have the chance to actually avoid any chance of finding one by avoiding the the classic progressive metal genre... even though, even in that sub genre, only 10% of the bands sound really close to DT  it's okay T, I know the split wasn't done so people could avoid DT clones  - afterall, some of the so-called clones are actually very good in their own right.

Edited by The T - October 22 2007 at 17:36

The T wrote: darqdean wrote: Trickster F. wrote: The T wrote: About the split... Good. Now when it's done, people will realize that prog metal never was a bunch of DT clones... (only 5% of the bands....)......   I've actually never understood that "Prog-Metal is not just about DT clones" argument. Even though I always did lack exposure to such artists due to having no interest in that direction whatsoever, even after having to work with the PMT for what, half a year or so, I could count the amount of times I found a "DT clone" on the chart.   I'd say it's just a myth, DT are so mind-bogglingly big that they appear to people not as one band, but a whole bunch of 'em? Get the hint? so ... what you are both saying is that after splitting up the subgenre so we can now see the wood for the trees, that there weren't any trees in the first place just one giant sequoia   No... when you get outside the forest, you actually get a different view from the trees... It changes whether it's a sequoia or a pine... but when dealing with Cypresses, it's another story... you can tell them apart but you still have the idea of a big amount of green leaves...   There's no sense in that.  Well, about the post, there ARE  a few DT clones (yes, I RECOGNIZE it...).... Just hear Lemur Voice's debut.... but there are few, and far between... And now people will have the chance to actually avoid any chance of finding one by avoiding the the classic progressive metal genre... even though, even in that sub genre, only 10% of the bands sound really close to DT

^ ^ exactly Ivan...  for me there are certains elements in PM that I do dislike intensely, yet never wanted to write off the whole sub as it was here.. this way is easier for people like me to get a better idea of the differences that were  within  the larger Progressive Metal umbrella.


Looking forward to Agalloch being my first foray into exp/post metal...

though I'm not sure what I may find within  tech/extreme but that is the fun isn't it... exploring.


Edited by micky - October 22 2007 at 17:51