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Dean 
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
 Posted: October 22 2007 at 06:42 |
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Great move. It will be interesting to see where specific bands end up, but I think I'm still going to be liking bands from each subsubgenre.
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What?
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jikai55
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Joined: March 21 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 296 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 06:47 |
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Great move`
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I like cheese and I like metal! --Mikael Åkerfeldt |
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valravennz
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VIP Member Joined: March 20 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 2546 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 07:24 |
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Awesome move! Now I won't have to go sifting too much for the Prog Metal I like.
A great move for the Archives in stream-lining a complex genre!
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
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moreitsythanyou
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VIP Member Joined: April 23 2006 Location: NYC Status: Offline Points: 11682 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 07:26 |
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I can't see this as negative, perhaps a bit pointless, but still a positive move.
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 <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
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clarke2001
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 07:45 |
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a) I don't like metal
b) this is a great move! Now us, people who don't like the genre simple because we are not very familiar with it and we weren't searching enough - we'll be able to find something for our tastes and to widen our horizons!! (The "PM for people who don't like PM" thread) is helpful, too. Great job folks!  |
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steve j
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Joined: September 30 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 164 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 07:56 |
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This is great news! Thanks to those who have spent time putting this thing together. It's a labour love, even though half the board don't like PM.
I don't understand the categories at present, so I look forward to see how the categorizing goes. Will be interesting where DT is put, as their music seems to be in several camps. The cat choice for Riverside also will be interesting.
Thanks again all concerned, our horizons are about to be widened.
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N Ellingworth
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Joined: April 17 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1324 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 08:11 |
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Great news, I look forward to the new sub genres being implemented as it'll making finding prog metal I like a lot easier.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21156 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 08:14 |
Both DT and Riverside will remain in Progressive Metal. They are not first and foremost technical, extreme, experimental or "post", so they stay in the "main" category. I think that numerically speaking the split will be something like 50:20:30, but of course we'll only be certain once it's finished.  BTW: It's relatively easy to choose one of the three categories for the bands, apart from a few exceptions (e.g. Opeth, Tool). It's more difficult to assign a sub genre to them ... that's why the sub genres will not be implemented as clickable lists for the time being. We'll probably implement these "schools" on a multiple genre per album basis ... first we'll do it for the key albums of the genres, and maybe later we'll try it for all the albums, which will be quite a job. |
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bhikkhu
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: A² Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 08:23 |
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Does everyone understand that this will be three separate, new sub-genres? and that hat they will not be grouped together under the title Prog-Metal? This is what doesn't make sense to me, because they are all still Metal bands. To me it would be like if you had a website that was only Prog-Metal, and contained the same bands. After some time, you realize it is so large that it needs some more organization. So the answer you come up with is creating three different websites. Do you see what I'm getting at? Do these bands have as little in common as Folk and Electronic? No, they are all Metal.
Before anyone asks what I have against metal, the answer is nothing. This has nothing to do with the specific sub-genre in question. It is a matter of logic concerning the structure of the site. You may ask, what about Art Rock? Well, a lot of those artists had nothing in common, and Art was never really considered a specific genre in the first place. I do believe that Metal needs these categories, but why not within the existing sub? |
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clarke2001
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 08:37 |
You got a valid point here, but if I understood Mike well, that three new subsubgenres will NOT be "clickable" genres. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21156 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 08:48 |
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^ actually the three genres will be clickable ... in fact M@x just created them. The sub genres of the three new genres will not be clickable though.
@bhikkhu: I understand what you're saying ... but this is more a technical limitation at the moment than a conceptional one. The three new genres all have the word "metal" in their label, which shows that they're closely related to each other. |
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 09:00 |
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After two years we finally did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would like to thank M@x and the admin team for having the trust in us to do this and for giving us their support.
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Rivertree
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Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17627 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 09:10 |
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As for the first impression it looks fine
 I'm curious about the band attributions  not a simple task ...Edited by Rivertree - October 22 2007 at 09:13 |
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Time Signature
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Joined: July 20 2007 Status: Offline Points: 362 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 09:12 |
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Whoa... three new genres to keep track of.
No, just kidding. I'm sure it'll be useful to a lot of people.
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This user has left the PA fora, but will occasionally post reviews so as to support artists.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21156 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 09:17 |
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^ I'm sure that it will be possible to create a page where all three categories are listed together ... actually, all it would take would be to change the current charts page so that you can select more than one genre.
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20240 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 09:21 |
Is it April's fool time again????
     You forgot progmetal-related!!!!!!!!!!!
  Just kiddiiiiin!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........
 next week, I'm announcing that Prog Folk is haxing sextuplets
  All joking aside, hopefully this will help you!!!
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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GoldenSpiral
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 09:25 |
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Looks good, fellas... nice work!
I would like to see the 3 genres under one page at some point in the future, but this is an excellent start.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21156 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 09:37 |
Actually there are quite a few other genre combinations which would be interesting chart-wise ... for example Post Rock + Post Metal, or Tech/Extreme Prog Metal + RIO/Avant, or Krautrock + Psychedelic etc.. Edited by MikeEnRegalia - October 22 2007 at 09:37 |
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rushfan4
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66262 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 10:05 |
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Sounds like a great deal to me. I am much more fond of the "original" prog metal genre than I am of these other experimental/technical subgenres. So it will be great not having to sift through these type bands to find the types of bands that I am looking for. I am definitely looking forward to the end product. Thank you.
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darkmatter
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Joined: November 23 2006 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 2760 |
Posted: October 22 2007 at 10:18 |
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Great job!
This will make it easier to navigate through progressive metal!
Edited by darkmatter - October 22 2007 at 10:24 |
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Announcing the Prog-Metal split
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steve j wrote:
