Heavy Prog ... huh ?

P.H.P. wrote: Time Signature wrote: Is all this genre-w**king part of being a progger? Does it make us seem more sophisticated or does it really makes us seem pretentious and silly? As I've said earlier, if we keep up at this rate, we'll end up having a genre per artist.   Yes, I think taggings must be just a little thing to guide new fans, it's not so important as the music, let the people do their investigation and tagging job, they will eventually do it, if they're honestly interested in Prog music.

Geez, I wish I could write like that. It took me 5 paragraphs to say the same thing.

oigh lol music is music enough w/ the retarded subgenres...then again where would the PROG archives be without genres? herm. contradiction.

Slartibartfast: where's your avatar from? Reminds me of Gilbert Shelton, Freak Brothers artist.



Edited by verslibre - September 20 2007 at 22:46

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ more like a genre per 50 artists. I can live with that!

As can I, the more specific the genres get the more likely it is you'll find other bands you like if you already like a band in that genre.

debrewguy wrote: Time Signature wrote: fuxi wrote: Time Signature wrote: Is all this genre-w**king part of being a progger? Does it make us seem more sophisticated or does it really makes us seem pretentious and silly? As I've said earlier, if we keep up at this rate, we'll end up having a genre per artist. It's a boy thing.   Oh, right, and since I'm a man, not a boy, I don't get it, right?!? Er, if you're a married man, then , er, you likely rarely get it, heh heh hehe ...

Slartibartfast wrote: I would like to take this opportunity to rant about some of the other sub-genres.   Canterbury Scene?  Do the British really need a scene of their own? Agree Indo-Prog/Raga Rock,  fairly self explanitory, but how come the Chinese don't get their own category? meh Italian Symphonic Prog?  Get back in with the rest of Symphonic Prog. Agree 1000% Krautrock?  Are there any Germans offended by that term?  And what is it doing here really? It's a very unique sound that many enjoy.. let it be Prog Metal?  Aren't those two terms contradictory? haha.. can't say I agree there And Zeuhl, Zeuhl? Zeuhl?  Whaaaaaaaaaa? Love it, but it could be thrown in with avant easily enough   Hey, I'm a wise guy and some folks might consider me a bit of a fungi. Fungi Indeed.... ?

Sckxyss wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: I would like to take this opportunity to rant about some of the other sub-genres.   Canterbury Scene?  Do the British really need a scene of their own? Agree DB's two cents - CAN'T we BURY this genre Indo-Prog/Raga Rock,  fairly self explanitory, but how come the Chinese don't get their own category? meh DB adds - how about canuckprog or idiot-prog/raggy prog Italian Symphonic Prog?  Get back in with the rest of Symphonic Prog. Agree 1000% Krautrock?  Are there any Germans offended by that term?  And what is it doing here really? It's a very unique sound that many enjoy.. let it be DB says - SYmphonic all together in one, as many groups have many sounds , Italian or not Prog Metal?  Aren't those two terms contradictory? haha.. can't say I agree there DB resents the innuendo, recognises the snobbishness And Zeuhl, Zeuhl? Zeuhl?  Whaaaaaaaaaa? Love it, but it could be thrown in with avant easily enough DB - why bother, it's not that big a deal to begin with   Hey, I'm a wise guy and some folks might consider me a bit of a fungi. Fungi Indeed.... ? DB - Are you williing to Backter Ya words up

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Edited by debrewguy - September 22 2007 at 13:13

micky wrote: somes thoughts on some points raised... first off the one closest to my heart.. hahah.. . ISP is not a symphonic genre... it is a genre for the Italian Progressive Rock movement. otherwise known as RPI.  It has not been renamed yet on the main page.. .so all can rest your minds a bit easier. DB breathes easy - Woo, I thought RPI might be RIP for a while ... Canterbury is a historical genre of sorts..  a well known scene centered around it..... could it be merged in Jazz-Rock...  the better question is ....why would we want to.  DB - Historical, yes, kinda funny smelling, too ... No thoughts on Indo Prog... could care less and apparantly most posters could either. DB asks - Indo what ? (many nod their heads going WHA ? As far as Krautrock... why would German's be offended by it...  I figure most of them have enough sense... unlike some.. to realize an insult from a  label.   DB suggests - QProg - Quebec prog, it seems to share a basic set of musical values, is an insular scene, or was ; and considering that they (Quebecers) like to separate themselves from just about everything, why not pander to them & say RPI, RPQ, then.

In response to the genres:
Krautrock: Anybody who says that that Kraut should not be a category on the site has not heard any krautrock.  The genre contains some of the most unique music on the site, and nearly every band in the genre would not remotely fit into any of the other genres on the site.

Canterbury: Though Canterbury could feasibly fit in Fusion, bands like GonG and Caravan would be poor fits with Area, Mahavishnu, and the like.

Italian Sympho: I can't agree more with anybody who says this just belongs in regular sympho.  I don't care if the technical term is IPS or whatever, it's simply symphonic prog that happens to come from Italy.  Japan has an equally unique RIO scene, but nobody wants to see it split from the rest of RIO. 

Zeuhl: I think that Zeuhl is different enough from the rest of the Avant/RIO category to deserve its own group.  Zeuhl is a very unique sound, and putting them in with RIO would make it very much harder for fans who discover Magma to also discover other French Zeuhlers like Eskaton and Dun and also the Japanese scene, with bands like Ruins and Bondage Fruit. 

Indo-Prog: I don't think anybody really cares. 


Edited by rileydog22 - September 22 2007 at 22:46

This is confusing me, too. There are some artists that I've always considered as symphonic prog, who are now labeled something else. And what is heavy prog, anyway?