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pero 
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 Posted: August 22 2007 at 03:38 |
 andu wrote:
Dean, did you just say an album is live only when the performance is assisted by an audience?  I ask as that phrase is not very clear. If so, I could never agree on that. Maybe you wanted to say that Live At Pompeii does not qualify as a "live album" because it's more of a film with music in it? I would agree on this tagging issue, but no-one can deny that hour of perfect "less is more" live performance from the Floyd which you get by summing up "Echoes", "Careful...", "Saucerful...", "One of these days", "Set the controls..." and "Nobs" (59 minutes and 9 seconds, actually  ) |
Yes indead. Live at Pompeii is fantastic expirience, and it's more live than live albums with audience. Playing music with such intensity without audience is like playing football on empty stadium.
But, the audience on Pompei theatre was full of goasts of past.
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Posted: August 22 2007 at 05:57 |
pero wrote:
But, the audience on Pompei theatre was full of goasts of past. |
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ian picken
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Posted: August 22 2007 at 07:25 |
Rush, Exit Stage Left. Yes, Yessongs. Porcupine Tree, Rockpalast. Pallas, Blinding Darkness. Genesis, Seconds Out. Dream Theater, Livetime. Supertramp Paris. All brilliant. 
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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 22 2007 at 08:43 |
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No particular order...
Jethro Tull - Bursting Out (the classic lineup in top form, full of Anderson's ascerbic wit on between song banter.
Uriah Heep - Live (rough sound quality, but Heep on storming form - just skip the rock'n'roll medley)
Steve Hillage - Live Herald (as Jean says, better without the studio side, but the rest of the album showcases not only Hillages guitar work, but also the superb band he had with him in those days)
Porcupine Tree - Coma Divine (very tight high quality set from a band on the up; get the double CD version if possible)
Genesis - Live & Archives Vol 1 (the great early Genesis double live album that never was; great playing, great band interplay, enthusiastic audience - the consumate prog-rock live album)
Yes - Yessongs (a little marred by sound quality, but a good snapshot of one of prog's true greats on top of their game in 1972)
King Crimson - Earthbound (raw & visceral - an often forgotten classic with a rare outing for the full version of 'Groon')
Allman Brothers - Filmore East (get the expanded luxury version; little to be said that hasn't been said before - an absolute classic blues rock album)
Deep Purple - Made In Japan (faultless - DP Mk II at the peak of their powers)
Rush - All The Worlds A Stage (Rush as young hungry rockers taking their first steps into prog-rock "we'd like to do for you side 1 from our latest album" - raw and worthy)
Also -
My tuppence worth on the subject of overdubs; of course you want the most honest live recording possible from your favorite band, but do you really want to hear them fluffing lines & solos? Virtually every live album ever released has had some kind of after recording tampering; Zappa's a famous example in that he mixes & matches performances from different shows (sometimes several times in one song), and either corrects, substitutes or removes whole sections...
...doesn't mean to say I love Broadway The Hard Way, or any other of his live albums any less.
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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dwill123
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Posted: August 22 2007 at 08:47 |
Welcome to the Canteen - Traffic
Rock of Ages - The Band
Band of Gypsys - Band of Gypsys
Between Nothingness and Eternity - Mahavishnu Orchestra
Live - Genesis
8:30 - Weather Report
Cirkus - King Crimson
Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Live Around the World - Miles Davis (contains a track from Miles' very last performance ever)
Babylon by Bus - Bob Marley & The Wailers
Sacred Fire - Santana
Live in L.A. - Rippingtons
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progadicto
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Posted: August 22 2007 at 22:37 |
Most (maybe all!) of my favourite live albums was mentioned in previous posts, so I pick some of them to make my list.
From BaldJean list: HAWKWIND / SPACE RITUAL a classic! Maybe the best psych rock album live ever!
From Febus list: GROBSCHNITT / SOLAR MUSIC Powerfull, raw, epical... it contains everything you want to hear in a prog live album...
From Dargdean list: AYERS, CALE, NICO & ENO / JUNE 1st 1972 A very weird masterpiece!
From Dargdean list: PORCUPINE TREE / COMA DIVINE An amazing journey thru the psych stuff made by PT... Great sound, long compositions, Wilson guitars and vocals sounds amazing... a great album!
From Rodrigogc list: JEFF BECK AND THE JAN HAMMER GROUP / LIVE No comments... Simply a live masterpice totally underrated...
From Honganji list: ANEKDOTEN / WAKING THE DEAD (LIVE IN JAPAN 2005) Awsome sound! Every song makes me feel goosebumps!
From Erik N. list: YES / YESSONGS Yes is my favourite band and this album is the probe of the real skills of the band. An album that sounds better year after year...
From Richardh list: TANGERINE DREAM / POLAND Just amazing! It will be hard to find best athmospheres in any other space rock album...
From Memowakeman list: DFA /WORK IN PROGRESS Another album that makes me feel in other planet... Its hard to believe that these guys are playing live!
From Rolling Ronnie list: SUPERTRAMP / PARIS MAybe an emotional choice but the albums sounds great and it has teh perfect mixture between som art rock and poppish and nice songs...
Special mention: FULANO / VIVO!
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BroSpence
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Posted: August 23 2007 at 20:53 |
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2. Humble Pie - Rockin' the Fillmore (incredible! Humble with Marriott and Frampton in top shape rocking not just the Fillmore!)
1. Jimi Hendrix - Live at Woodstock (I always go back to this amazing performance. 2 discs and not a bad note on either one. )
6. Birth Control - Live (Krautrockers turn volume and jams up to 11)
8. Neil Young - Live Rust (Personally I find it much better than Rust Never Sleeps. Good mix of RNS songs and classic Young songs that feedback like no other)
7. Miles Davis - Live at the Fillmore West (Jazz giant has a killer backing band and several nights of great performances. Jack DeJohnette grooves, Davis messes around).
4. Allman Brothers Band - Live at the Fillmore East (Duane makes his guitar sing along with a band that played tight together and knew how to treat the blues).
10. Jim Hall - Live! (Possibly the greatest Jazz guitarist playing almost alone and as beautifully as ever. Hall has one of the best tones a player could ask for).
9. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention - Fillmore East June 1971 (complete ridiculousness that never gets old or uninteresting).
5. The Byrds - Untitled (a double album 1/2 live half studio. Both halves are great. Clarence White is a forgotten hero of the Guitar).
3. Led Zeppelin - BBC Sessions (I prefer many of these sessions to any of the studio recordings. The band sounds full and raw. Plant wails, Page fuzzes, Bonham explodes all while JPJ keeps it steady and grooving).
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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 08:14 |
BroSpence wrote:
3. Led Zeppelin - BBC Sessions (I prefer many of these sessions to any of the studio recordings. The band sounds full and raw. Plant wails, Page fuzzes, Bonham explodes all while JPJ keeps it steady and grooving). |
Excellent choice - reminds me, I forgot to mention 'How the West Was Won'; to my mind, knocks spots off 'The Song Remains The Same'; includes a full on workout of 'Since I Been Lovin You', on which JPJ plays the dirtiest sounding Hammond you'll ever hear 
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gliss bliss
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Posted: December 20 2007 at 19:36 |
BaldJean wrote:
I know some people don't like live albums, but I just love them. nowhere else can a band be free of the restriction to try to sound perfectly but simply let the music flow. what are your favorite ones? here are mine, counting backward from10 to 1. please try to give s short explanation why you include the albums too.
10) Frumpy: "Live" (1973). Inga Rumpf and company put on a great show; she
definitely has the blackest voice of all white singers. an excellent introduction
to this band which deserves more attention.
9) Kraan: "Live" (1975). a stunning classic with highlights like "Holiday am Marterhorn including Gipfelsturm", "Sarah's Ritt durch den Schwarzwald" or "Nam Nam". Helmut Hattler definitely is one of the best bass players in prog; something you can hear here.
8) Guru Guru: "Live" (1976). with a lot of previously unreleased tracks
(some of which had been a live favorite already though), like "Medicine
Man's Overdose", "Herzflimmern" or "Transylvanian Express", and great
versions of "Moroso", "Der Elektrolurch" and "Ooga Booga". the album
shows what a great live act Guru Guru must have been (I never saw them
live myself). one can actually see Mani Neumeier hopping around in his
wrestling suit when hearing him. it helps if you understand some German
to get some of the jokes they make, like when Neumeier sings "Santa Fu,
raus bist du" ("Santa Fu, you are out", that song was recorded at Santa
Fu, a prison in Hamburg) in "Ooga Booga" and talks about the prisoners getting new
uniforms after the concert that look like his wrestling suit.
7) Hawkwind: "Space Ritual" (1973). what can I say? a classic. Hawkwind re-released the album with uncut versions of "Time We Left" and "Brainstorm" (they had been shortened for the original release because they were too long). too bad this is not a DVD; Stacia would have been a nice addition 
6) Gentle Giant: "Playing the Fool" (1977). Gentle Giant show that their complex compositions can be played live without sounding sterile; on the contrary, they make them sound really alive. highlights are the "Octopus Medley", "On Reflection" and "Funny Ways".
5) Steve Hillage: "Live Herald" (1978). this one originally came out as a 3-sides live, 1-side studio vinyl; unfortunately the studio material sounded bloodless compared to the live material (with the exception of "1988 Activator"). it was in my opinion a good decision of Virgin to release this as a single CD live album and add the studio material to the CD-version of "Open". at 69 minutes the album is still long enough. great versions of classic Hillage songs.
4) 801: "Live" (1976). Brian Eno, Phil Manzanera and friends play a collection of songs associated with former projects of them as well as some classic. one of the most interesting releases of that time; the beginning of punk can be felt in songs like "Third Uncle". unfortunately a single album only.
3) Magma: "Live / Hhai" (1975). featuring a 17-year old Didier Lockwood on
violin who (almost) steals the show; just listen to his seven and a
half minute solo in "Mekanik Zain". great version of "Köhntark". a
friend of mine once commented: "sounds like a holiday in hell".
2) Gong: "Live au Bataclan" (1990). this album was recorded in 1973 and shows the "classic" band line-up (Daevid Allen, Gilly Smyth, Pierre Moerlen, Didier Malherbe, Steve Hillage, Mike Howlett, Tim Blake) in top form, performing some of their classics. don't get irritated by the strange titles on the album; you will recognize these classics quickly.
1) Van der Graaf Generator: "Vital" (1978). since I follow my usual policy of best lists (naming an artist twice or more in such a list is behaving like a fan boy/girl; pick your gender) I was torn between "Vital" and "Real Time". I settled for "Vital" because it adds new aspects to the songs; also because it includes some previously unreleased material. the general treatment of all songs was: give 'em a raw brushing up! Nic Potter's bass truly is a monster!
again this list may change at any moment, depending on my mood, but "Vital", "Live au Bataclan" and "Live / Hhai" will always be in it
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You've not heard Gong Est Mort or Gong Live Etc yet, some of Hillage's finest moments with that other prog rock keyboard wizard Click Switch Doctor Aka Hi T Moonweed Aka Tim Blake
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Lets go to church and be good looking.
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Philéas
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Posted: December 20 2007 at 19:51 |
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Favourites in no order (most of these are unprog, sorry):
Jimi Hendrix - Live at Woodstock
The Who - Live at Leeds
Indian Summer - Hidden Arithmetic (one live recording and one radio session. This isn't the Prog band, btw)
Myrbein - Live Östersund 1979 (never properly released, except as mp3's on the band's website)
Jimi Hendrix - Band of Gypsys
Badger - One Live Badger
I'm not that interested in live albums generally.
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Teh_Slippermenz
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Posted: December 20 2007 at 20:43 |
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1. Plays Live - Peter Gabriel (Awesome one that I picked up from my library last night)
2. Yessongs - Yes
3. Genesis Live - Genesis
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Soul Dreamer
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Posted: December 20 2007 at 20:52 |
Prog:
- Yes - Yessongs
- Yes - Symphonic Live (DVD)
- Genesis - Seconds Out
- Hawkwind - Space Ritual
- Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
- Rush - Rush in Rio (DVD)
- Dream Theater - Score (DVD)
- Pendragon - And Now Everybody To The Stage (DVD)
- Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere... (DVD)
- Renaissance - Live at the Carnegie Hall
edit: forgot Ange - Tome VI...soooooo good!
Non-Prog
- Wishbone Ash - Live Dates
- Neil Young - Live Rust
- Bruce Springsteen - Live 1975-1985
- Deep Purple - Made in Japan
- Metallica - S&M
- Allman brothers Band - Live at Fillmore East
- Coldplay - Live 2003
Edited by Soul Dreamer - December 20 2007 at 21:06
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To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica)
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gliss bliss
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Posted: December 20 2007 at 20:58 |
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"Planet Gong - Floating Anarchy Live
Not really Gong, but Daevid Allen with Here & Now, but it's exceptional."
What about Gilli Smyth and Steve Hillage they were on that record too, I know Steffi Sharpstrings is credited as guitarist, but this was recorded on the same show as Gong Est Mort. For contractual reasons Hillage was uncredited on both these records because he was contracted to Virgin records which forbade him to appear on any other recordings.
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Lets go to church and be good looking.
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limeyrob
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 06:32 |
Haven't really got that many live albums as I prefer studio versions
The exceptions are Yessongs, Tournado and Richochet which are brilliant
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 09:15 |
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Marillion - Popular Music
Fish - Sunsets on Empire: Live in Poland 1997
Pink Floyd - PULSE
Pendragon - Live in Krakow '96
Dire Straits - Alchemy Live
Led Zeppelin - How the West Was Won
Satellite - Evening Dreams
Grey Lady Down - The Time Of Our Lives
Steve Hackett - The Tokyo Tapes
Deep Purple - Made in Japan
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A B Negative
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 10:22 |
darqdean wrote:
and don't say Live in Pompeii because there is no audience present during the recording and does not qualify as a live album |
It's a bit too Zen for me - if a band records an album and there's nobody there to hear it, is it a live album? If the audience claps with one hand I'm going to get really confused! My favourites at the moment: Hawkwind - Space Ritual Hawkwind - The 1999 Party Gong - Est Mort Planet Gong - Live Floating Anarchy 1977 King Crimson - Earthbound King Crimson - The Night Watch Tangerine Dream - Ricochet Tangerine Dream - Logos Magma - Trilogie au Trianon Opeth - The Roundhouse Tapes
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Nightfly
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 13:36 |
Jim Garten wrote:
BroSpence wrote:
3. Led Zeppelin - BBC Sessions (I prefer many of these sessions to any of the studio recordings. The band sounds full and raw. Plant wails, Page fuzzes, Bonham explodes all while JPJ keeps it steady and grooving). |
Excellent choice - reminds me, I forgot to mention 'How the West Was Won'; to my mind, knocks spots off 'The Song Remains The Same'; includes a full on workout of 'Since I Been Lovin You', on which JPJ plays the dirtiest sounding Hammond you'll ever hear |
Agreed; How the West Was Won is far better than The Song Remains the Same although that is much improved on the remastered version and the adition of the extra, shorter tracks seems to help the flow and offset some of the meanderings of the more bloated tracks and is a much better album as a consequence.
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Ely78
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Posted: December 26 2007 at 17:19 |
See this for my RPI (and related) top list:
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When the love becomes poetry, distant from the eyes
(Quando l'Amore Diventa poesia/ Lontano Dagli occhi [Aphrodite's Child)
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ProgBagel
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Posted: December 26 2007 at 17:38 |
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Pain of Salvation - 12.5
I think that is all I have. I don't care that much for live albums.
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khammer99
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Posted: December 26 2007 at 19:57 |
The reason I don't like life albums is they are generally poorly produced. Stuff, like the singer fades in and out, drums and bass overpower, etc. I'm not saying a want it polished, just have a better production process... 1) Kiss - Alive - Recorded in Detroit. Great show 2) Rush - All the Worlds a Stage - Good quality sound from a live album. 3) Humble Pie - King Biscuit Flower Hour (recorded in San Fransisco) - Just great 4) Peter Frampton - Frampton Comes Alive - Alright, alright, I know it's lame! But I got right up front! 5) Led Zep - The Song Remains the Same - Seeing my hero's live...
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Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has
been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.
- Terry Pratchett
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