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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 10:13
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

 Your quote:have a life beyond Peter, and I very much like Fripp too. I just couldn't let an inaccurate statement stand like that. Fripp is indeed very exploring, but you said he was the only one who is, and that's not true.
 
That's here, dear!!! can we let go now , please!

so what? I didn't say the inaccurate statement was made by you.. Wink
anyway, no need to fuss about that


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 10:13
Semantics are fun
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 11:18
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:


Unlike their contemporaries who sold out to play it safe, Fripp was fully willing to fall flat on his face, but he'd do so while exploring new sonic territory, and in doing so, moved music farther than anyone before or, for that matter, since. Had he been born a few centuries ago, he would have been a circumnavigator.

that's arguable; if you follow the career of Peter Hammill you will see lots of tosses and turns there too, including territory Mr. Fripp never dared to put his foot into. or did Fripp ever write an opera?
I really meant Yes, Genesis, and ELP. VDGG are another group beyond reproach, and Hammill is every bit as important to moving rock forward as Bobby. Haven't heard his solo work yet, but it seems to be as well loved as the VDGG stuff, so I'll certainly have to give it a try
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 11:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 13:38
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Semantics are fun


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 13:41
I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 14:01
Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?
 
Read my review; i am all with you, Sirco:!!!!!
 ISLANDS Heartis great!!!!!!!! and i haven't changed my opinion since 1972! a long time! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 14:53
Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?


hear  hear .. let us hear no more of Peter Hammill and semantics in this thread...

it probably is underrated...  some  think it is not up to par in comparison to  the rest of their albums...a textbook definition for underrated in the eyes of those who really like it LOLWink

then again... is comparing it to the rest of their albums fair.. considering you are really comparing apples and oranges.

quite simply the album bores me...  but that is just me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:17
I'm still wondering what people have against John Wetton's singing...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:20
Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?


I'll read your review to find out exactly what you and other people see in the other album. to me, a "gentle" King Crimson album is just a waste of time - being a big fan of their subsequent era, if I came to review it, I'd give it a one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:33
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?
 
Read my review; i am all with you, Sirco:!!!!!
 ISLANDS Heartis great!!!!!!!! and i haven't changed my opinion since 1972! a long time! 


Islands was my introduction to King Crimson. And still thinking it's a great album. The fact that's actually rated under the fourth star is a real shame. Ouch

I'll read your review, BTW
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:36
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?


hear  hear .. let us hear no more of Peter Hammill and semantics in this thread...

it probably is underrated...  some  think it is not up to par in comparison to  the rest of their albums...a textbook definition for underrated in the eyes of those who really like it LOLWink

then again... is comparing it to the rest of their albums fair.. considering you are really comparing apples and oranges.

quite simply the album bores me...  but that is just me.


IMO Islands is up to par in comparison with any other KC early album. Maybe isn't better than Red, ITCOTCK or LTIA, but in that case, it's equally awesome, not worse. And better than Lizard, ITWOP and SABB.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 16:41
Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

I recently reviewed Islands and gave it the full rating. Since this thread has slightly changed the direction of the real topic, I ask you folks: isn't Islands underrated? IMO yes it is, but am I the only guy who think so?
Beautiful album indeed!  Just because it isn't abrasive and harsh doesn't mean it can't be on the same level as other KC albums (of course some fans will have an immediate gag-reflex to anything with this style)...The title track is one of the most evocative pieces I've ever heard (now if it wasn't for the dreadful "Ladies of the Road" it would be in my top 3 KC albums).
 
Perfect follow up to the (also) excellent Lizard...these two represent the two ends of KC's spectrum.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 17:44
I agree with the guy who said that King Crimson is prog's elite fighting force. They always come around when there is a need for something to shake the business around :)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 19:36
[QUOTE=febus]Yes, very uncommon for a woman; i brought my wife to a CRIMSON concert in 95 at the time of the double trio; she had to leave halfway, couldn't stand the ''Bang--Bang''LOL
 
 Wish we could of been there to help you! What I don't get is why she didn't find  Bill Bruford "CUTE" LOLLOLLOL Because Fripp ain't no Sexy Idol- he lets his hot guitar do the flirting! Shocked By they way , be careful how you use the term "bang-bang" !Ouch


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 20:10
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

I'm still wondering what people have against John Wetton's singing...
 
It's hard to describe a sub-par vocalist.. it's simply less pleasing to the ear. I think it's an aquired taste, since I used to hate it, and now my feelings are neutral. But, what he lacks in vocal ability, he more than makes up for in bass playing! Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 20:34
Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

I'm still wondering what people have against John Wetton's singing...
 
It's hard to describe a sub-par vocalist.. it's simply less pleasing to the ear. I think it's an aquired taste, since I used to hate it, and now my feelings are neutral. But, what he lacks in vocal ability, he more than makes up for in bass playing! Clap


I don't think Wetton is sub-par at all... As a matter of fact, his voice has improved over the years, while usually singers go in the opposite direction. However, I am not too keen on his performance on LTIA, which features a lot of vocal parts that could've been sung much better by a more experienced vocalist. On SABB and especially "Red", Wetton's singing is much stronger and more expressive (I love his performance on "The Great Deceiver"). It's quite clear that, when he first joined KC for LTIA, he wasn't used to singing lead, and his vocals suffer from the comparison with Lake's.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 21:06
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

I'm still wondering what people have against John Wetton's singing...
 
It's hard to describe a sub-par vocalist.. it's simply less pleasing to the ear. I think it's an aquired taste, since I used to hate it, and now my feelings are neutral. But, what he lacks in vocal ability, he more than makes up for in bass playing! Clap


I don't think Wetton is sub-par at all... As a matter of fact, his voice has improved over the years, while usually singers go in the opposite direction. However, I am not too keen on his performance on LTIA, which features a lot of vocal parts that could've been sung much better by a more experienced vocalist. On SABB and especially "Red", Wetton's singing is much stronger and more expressive (I love his performance on "The Great Deceiver"). It's quite clear that, when he first joined KC for LTIA, he wasn't used to singing lead, and his vocals suffer from the comparison with Lake's.
 
Exactly what i said in a previous threadTongue he was good! he got better and he is still great, just listen to his voice on ICON  1 + 2 or  the last ASIA ''live in Tokyo''
.......so POWERFUL!!!
 
Hope he comes back healthy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 21:10
No matter how many threads, polls, recommendations KC will ever get... it´s still not enough, keep em coming LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2007 at 22:39
I don't care too much for Wetton's voice. I prefer more Lake & Belew, though. But he's undoubtely a great bass player.
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