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Zargus
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Joined: May 08 2005
Location: Sweden
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 07:43 |
I bought my last early KC album yesterday "Starless and bible black" now i gona start buy thiere more modern albums i got all stuff up to "Dicepline" what shuld i get next? I was thinking about the live album "Absent Lovers - Live in Montreal, 1984" since i dont got any live album yet.
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Paulieg
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Location: United States
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 07:31 |
Crimson are in my top five all time favorite bands. They introduced me to prog in my early years, around 12, with ITCOTCK album. I remember falling in love with this album. It took me to places no other music had done before. I would listen to the whole album in one sitting and be put in another world, each song setting the stage for a trip to far away galaxies, while staring at the cover. Epitaph was the first time I recall hearing a mellotron and I remember trying to figure out what instrument made that wonderful sound. Was it a violin, cello, ??? Little did I know it was a keyboard called a mellotron. After purchasing ITCOTCK, I immediately went to my local record retailer and checked out their other releases. I was blown away by the covers of In the wake of Posieden and Lizard and bought these releases. I was thrilled to find the music to be even better. Prince Rupert Awakes from Lizard with Jon Anderson guesting on vocals blew me away and I had to go get all the Yes albums. Well the rest is history. I became and still am a full blown prog junky, thanks to bands like King Crimson.
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fuxi
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Joined: March 08 2006
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 03:32 |
What is it you don't like about John Wetton's vocals? I've always enjoyed his work with KC...
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rileydog22
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Joined: August 24 2005
Location: New Jersey
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 01:39 |
As much as I love the Krim, they aren't really challenging at all when compared to RIO, Zeuhl, Kraut, etc.
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Dim
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Joined: April 17 2007
Location: Austin TX
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 01:04 |
Hey I'm cool with whateva the crimson does as long as they are still as challenging as they can possibly be!
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rileydog22
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Location: New Jersey
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 00:28 |
Hey, it's King Crimson. I think it's safe to say that this year, they will do something different. They have always done something different (with the possible exception of the Double Trio-Double Duo transition, but I think Fripp is aware of the need to move on). What they will do differently this year is up in the air, but I think that it's safe to assume that reeds, brass, and violin are out of the question, as is a new frontman (I personally am looking forward to more Belew). I'd rather just wait and see how they will surprise us than to go through all the different ways that they won't.
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 00:18 |
Nobody is bitching and moaning. I'm just saying I feel that KC isn't
progressing forward as much so as in the past and the retention of
members, particularly Belew will cause that to happen. I certainly
don't want a repeat of the past, however, having an instrument besides
guitar won't mean they will release ITCOTCK Act II anymore than having
two guitars means they're going to release Discipline again.
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rileydog22
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Joined: August 24 2005
Location: New Jersey
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Posted: August 19 2007 at 00:13 |
Ok, here's the point some people seem to be missing: King Crimson will consist of Adrian Belew, Robert Fripp, Tony Levin, and Pat Mastellotto. No matter how much you bitch and moan about it, you aren't gonna get Ian McDonald or Mel Collins or David Cross back, and you aren't gonna get a new frontman. Seems to me like looking FORWARD to the new King Crimson lineup is a much better idea than looking BACK at how great it was when there were 'trons and saxes and violins abounding.
Edited by rileydog22 - August 19 2007 at 00:13
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Dim
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Joined: April 17 2007
Location: Austin TX
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:51 |
The melotron was not very prevelant on ltia anyways...
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:51 |
I really liked the two guitar approach, but again I feel it has
begun to stagnate a bit. Bring in a woodwind, brass, or string player
instead I say.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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1800iareyay
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Joined: November 18 2006
Location: United States
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:44 |
Mike Patton, lol. I was actually more concerned about the absence of a second guitarist. The Mellotron doesn't get much attention anymore; they need a second guitarist to keep up the soundscapes. The days of Red are over.
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Floydian42
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Location: United States
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:44 |
The only thing I think Crimson lacks are good lyrics. They never were the best.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:37 |
Mike Patton
I don't know. I don't have anyone particular in mind. I wouldn't mind
hearing a relative unknown in the spot. Bobby seems to have a knack for
picking a good fit.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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1800iareyay
Prog Reviewer
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Location: United States
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:30 |
Who do you have in mind as a replacement?
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:27 |
I'll admit that I'm not a particular fan of Belew, but eitherway I feel
he has to go. He's been on the KC boat too long; I think it's time for
a change of face.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Dim
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Joined: April 17 2007
Location: Austin TX
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:17 |
you better be sorry
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1800iareyay
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:11 |
i meant singing. Sorry
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Dim
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:05 |
Those two are bass players... am I not getting something?
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1800iareyay
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 23:00 |
Indeed, I'd rate him up with Wetton and Lake
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Dim
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Location: Austin TX
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Posted: August 18 2007 at 22:59 |
sircosick wrote:
Lately I'm getting into Belew's voice. IMO he's always regarded to little attention as a singer, but I think he is outstanding. |
Cause he's such a good guitar player.
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