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    Posted: August 04 2007 at 23:59

is anyone here a conlanger or conscripter, meaning you create your own writing systems or languages? I am, and for some reason it has become an enduring hobby of mine! Strange eh? I've never created a language system, but i've created 1 alternate alphabet for english and i'm working on another. I use these alternate alphabets for writing secret information and trying to confuse people. It's strangely entertaining to know I can write things that no one but me can read! I also try to create scripts that are more aesthetically pleasing than english. (I practice calligraphy often...) Does anyone else do this sort of thing or am I just extremely eccentric?   
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There are clearly two possibilities here:
1. You are a misunderstood genius.
2. You are a total nutcase.

I'm not sure which. 

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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

There are clearly two possibilities here:
1. You are a misunderstood genius.
2. You are a total nutcase.

I'm not sure which. 
 
it's a combination of the two really, weighing slightly more toward the former. Perhaps I am a misunderstood nutcase, or a total genius! Tolkien did just this and tolkien created lotr. Elvish (or tengwar) is both a conlang and conscript. One of the genres on this site is named from a conscript even! Good may come of such strange passtimes! I also enjoy studying classical encryption and decryption techniques. (codebreaking etc.) My ultimate goal is to create a conscript, paired with a complex code that even the gov. would have trouble with! As an english major, such language related endeavours are of special interest to me.
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Originally posted by purplepiper purplepiper wrote:


It's strangely entertaining to know I can write things that no one but me can read!

I can do that with the regular alphabet if I write fast enough. Wink
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I invented my own alphabet, super-secure with special symbols for punctuation, double letters and 5 different symbols for spaces chosen at random but all read as space. So what you get is an uncrackable bunch of characters. I tried to design the characters to be as simple as regular letters, so after I've mastered it can write in it almost as fast as regular English, reading is a little slower though.

The purpose of it was... to cheat on tests...Embarrassed And it worked perfectly many times.
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

I invented my own alphabet, super-secure with special symbols for punctuation, double letters and 5 different symbols for spaces chosen at random but all read as space. So what you get is an uncrackable bunch of characters. I tried to design the characters to be as simple as regular letters, so after I've mastered it can write in it almost as fast as regular English, reading is a little slower though.

The purpose of it was... to cheat on tests...Embarrassed And it worked perfectly many times.
surely if you're smart enough to do that you don't need to cheat on tests... Wink
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People with such capacity are normally hired by the CIA or similar agencies whatever the country you live/were born not only for coding but also for decoding other artificial alphabets/languages/codes/etc.Geek

Don't know the salary they pay...

 
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

I invented my own alphabet, super-secure with special symbols for punctuation, double letters and 5 different symbols for spaces chosen at random but all read as space. So what you get is an uncrackable bunch of characters. I tried to design the characters to be as simple as regular letters, so after I've mastered it can write in it almost as fast as regular English, reading is a little slower though.

The purpose of it was... to cheat on tests...Embarrassed And it worked perfectly many times.
 
yes! I knew I wasn't the only one doing this. My first alphabet is pretty simple, but with a very distinctive appearance. I have it completely memorized and can write it almost as fast as english, but like you, I can't read it as fast. Not sure why! The purpose of my alphabets are for doodling all over stuff, like my journal when sitting through a boring lecture. I also write notes to myself in it. Also, you can use conscripts to cheat! It could be just scribbling for all anyone else knows! As much as we'd like to think, our alphabets are probably only secure in the hands of normal people. Those cia codebreakers have all kinds of tricks, like frequency analysis and such. Thankfully, we'll probably never encounter a real codebreaker! My new alphabet is just meant to be decorative, with a garden feel to it. The letters are based on plant shapes. If you want to see other conscripts, check out 'your scripts' at www.omniglot.com.
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I used something more primitive in the University, mixed letters with Logic symbols and numbers, but not to hide my messages, it was to take notes faster because I'm a very slow handwritter.
 
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I haven't yet, but I might start soon. I've had a real interest in linguistics (one I'd like to pursue in college) and this would be a cool activity for that.
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Jean and I do something similar. We invented a totally different calendar with 13 months, each with 28 days, plus a new years day which does not belong to any month or week. And in leap years New Years Day is followed by Leap Day, also belonging to no week or month. The year beinns with the spring equinox for us.


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This thread reminds me of just how weird prog fans are.  I usually ignore it when people mock prog fans, but this.........

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Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

I haven't yet, but I might start soon. I've had a real interest in linguistics (one I'd like to pursue in college) and this would be a cool activity for that.
 yes, you should try it! it's quite fun and anyone can do it. I considered being a linguistic anthropologist, but I decided i'd stick to english. if you're going to create your own alphabet, here's some pointers:
vowels should look the coolest because vowels are in every word,
consider writing in columbs or backwards to add style,
consider creating the consonants from variations on similar shapes for consistency,
don't forget a number system and punctuation marks,
try experimenting with different colors...they tend to inspire me in different ways,
watch the fancy tails and slashes...they make it hard to fit lines of script close together.
also, you gotta check out 'your scripts' at www.omniglot.com !!!
 
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Wow! Purplepiper, you want to be a one man prog act and make your own landuages? Sounds like you the essence of a krautrock master... except they alredy have a langauge...Ermm
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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

This thread reminds me of just how weird prog fans are.  I usually ignore it when people mock prog fans, but this.........
 
you don't even know the half of it...LOL 
 
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
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Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Wow! Purplepiper, you want to be a one man prog act and make your own landuages? Sounds like you the essence of a krautrock master... except they alredy have a langauge...Ermm
 
I'll be an artrock master. Don't really know much about krautrock yet. I am german though... I also enjoy exploring the depths of fusion.
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I used something more primitive in the University, mixed letters with Logic symbols and numbers, but not to hide my messages, it was to take notes faster because I'm a very slow handwritter.
 
Iván
 
who knows...that shorthand of yours, with some modification, could become a cryptic conscript!
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I am a metal/symphonic/spacey guitar and keyboarder
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Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

I am a metal/symphonic/spacey guitar and keyboarder
 
I'm an artrock/fusion/symphonic/neo-classical/classical/mathrock guitarist. I like things to be fast, complicated, and utterly unorthodox, and usually very loud!!! King crimson is my favourite art rock group, and return to forever is my favourite fusion group. For symphonic, yes/genesis/elp. For classical, paco de lucia/segovia. For 'mathrock', most of robert fripp's riffs and gentle giant.
for those about to prog, we salute you.
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did you know that when we read, we only 'see' the first and last letter of every word? so, even if the middle letters weren't in the right order, you could still read it...

try it:

mesuum of nruatal htsoiry...
-music is like pornography...

sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...



-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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