Coheed And Cambria: The real reasons !!!

laplace wrote: "at the very least"? heh I guess sounding like the catchy emo version of Rush could land you in prog related but I don't think they have solid credentials for anything more you could argue that basically any band is intelligent and/or atypical but that doesn't make 'em prog

I just don't get the emo connection.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: jimidom wrote: laplace wrote: "at the very least"? heh I guess sounding like the catchy emo version of Rush could land you in prog related but I don't think they have solid credentials for anything more you could argue that basically any band is intelligent and/or atypical but that doesn't make 'em prog I just don't get the emo connection. Listen to the vocals.

Atavachron wrote: though they are often 'considered' prog, Claudio Sanchez sites his influences as Zep, Lizzy, Floyd and Sabbath, claiming no Rush influence at all.

that's from an old quote which you can find on Wikipedia.

darqdean wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: Listen to the vocals. In places the vocals sound like the back streetboys

I quite agree. IMO Coheed and Cambria might pass as prog related ... only yesterday I listened to Good Apollo (their last album), and I can understand why some people think they're prog. I also used to agree to some extent, but the more I listen to their music the more I think that they're deliberately not crossing the border between simply "complex" alternative rock music and prog.

The two last albums of Three (that's a band name ) are a good example of alternative prog - and in direct comparison to for example Good Apollo the differences are obvious.

the emo connection is definitly in the vocals. loud, rapid, and it just sounds like crap. the first thing i thought of when i heard them was those japanese bands that do soundtracks for anime. The first track in Good Apollo actually kinda made me laugh. The first thing that came to mind was "prog posers"

Man, I used to hate this band. I'd go around yelling and making fun of all it's fans. The only songs I heard being A Favor House Atlantic, The Suffering, and Blood Red Summer. Then I listened to some of their non-radio friendly stuff. His vocals took a little while to warm up too, but being a fan of high pitched voices(rush,yes,mars volta, etc.) it wasn't that bad. Still there are some songs I absolutely despise, probably what most of the haters are talking about (being a former hater myself).
    But honestly, how many bands do you know have a concept as complex and well written as the armory wars, which will span five albums once completed. The lead singer even writes his own comics based on the concept. That's at least nerdy enough to be prog.
    Songs I reccomend listening for prog elements in are:
    21:13- I think hes trying to break glass  with his voice in the beginning but listen and you will encounter some very genesis/yes types of instrumental sections.
    The Crowing- Very Epic sounding, some gay parts but still good.
    The Willing Wells I-IV- One Starts out very atonal and quirky gradually builds to sound more minor in tonality. Two Is very happy sounding to contrast the previous composition. Has some wonderful guitar harmonies. Three is a recurring theme from earlier in the album. Four is the show of song for guitars as it ends with each guitarist ripping some beautiful melodic solos. It gradually fades into nothing, but then there is a surprise, but I won't spoil it.
    The Velorium Campers- Three songs about a serial killer kidnapping people, killing them and then himself. That's at least worth a few listens.
    Listen to these songs with an open mind and then try to tell me they don't belong on this site. It's a shame that all the 70's prog fans are open enough to listen to the music of that time but fail to see the beauty that prog has progressed upon itself into a whole new style.

heyitsthatguy wrote: Three got added recently, correct? Nice avy btw Really? I suggested the addition ... don't know if they've been added yet. what I don't get is how some people can like 3 and not Coheed (at least their non poppy stuff)...its like the same band I don't agree at all. I listened to The End Is Begun several times ... then I listened to Good Apollo. The latter is much more simplistic in almost every aspect. I like it, but - as I already posted elsewhere - it seems to me like they were deliberately trying to stay out of prog territory. Except for the intro which is symphonic/orchestral and some parts of the last three songs, which is not enough to make it a prog album IMO.

The T wrote: So when's Maroon 5 coming to PA?

Proletariat wrote: The T wrote: So when's Maroon 5 coming to PA? Its already added, go check

Edited by The T - August 07 2007 at 14:00

MikeEnRegalia wrote: heyitsthatguy wrote: Three got added recently, correct? Nice avy btw Really? I suggested the addition ... don't know if they've been added yet. what I don't get is how some people can like 3 and not Coheed (at least their non poppy stuff)...its like the same band I don't agree at all. I listened to The End Is Begun several times ... then I listened to Good Apollo. The latter is much more simplistic in almost every aspect. I like it, but - as I already posted elsewhere - it seems to me like they were deliberately trying to stay out of prog territory. Except for the intro which is symphonic/orchestral and some parts of the last three songs, which is not enough to make it a prog album IMO.

I meant basic soundwise
3 uses similar musical mannerisms to Coheed's In Keeping Secrets album, including style of pinch harmonics, extensive use of 3/4 or 6/8 time, as well as the vocals. I'm not saying they're identical, I just find it funny how some people can love one and despise the other when they're so similar (not levying any accusations BTW)

I think I'll make a 3 thread now, unless there's already been one