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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 07:41
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Matrix was a major disappointment for me. It teaches the lesson of how to do little with a lot of great ideas.
Titanic was indeed sentimental crap but I wouldn't call it overrated... just sold well.
Never had anything special for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. If I want something with Asian feel, I always go for a Miyazaki anime, for example. I do like Ang Lee however, I loved his Brokeback Mountain.
Also I agree on all Rocktopus' mentions.


Matrix wasn't my biggest disappointment, I actually enjoyed the first and even liked the second's dynamic. Being however totally bored by the ending.
But, talking to a friend who does professional martial arts, I did find out that those from the Matrix are indeed baloney.

About Titanic, I can only say: Yes, I did cry at it. (Polo Happy commercial WinkLOL) I was seven, but I got totally sentimental. Otherwise, it's a film to totally forget. And, just like its fellow two films, it got 11 Oscar for absolutely nothing.

On the other hand, dear friend, I can't agree about Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. That movie is so special and well-made for me, it's a thumbs up. But I did felt nothing about Brokeback Mountain. Except Gyllenhaal's performance, the rest was weak; and its controversy didn't needed that much accent.

Now to mention some of my own, I actually remember reading once a list of big movies considered disasters. Vanilla Ice topped the list, but I didn't find it that horrible. A.I. - with Haley Osmond - was second, and this time I agree, that movie was completely superficial.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 08:30
Hmm...

Wayne's World is not overrated, David!  Neither if Requiem for a Dream was that Rocktopus?).

I found Farewell My Concubine extremely boring... I don't think I even finished watching it.
Titanic was indeed crap.  I think most agree on this.

If I'd seen it, I think I'd find Pearl Harbor overrated too, as I hate American adaptations of war.  The same with U-571.

I cannot think of anything else for the moment...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 08:40
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Matrix was a major disappointment for me. It teaches the lesson of how to do little with a lot of great ideas.
Titanic was indeed sentimental crap but I wouldn't call it overrated... just sold well.
Never had anything special for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. If I want something with Asian feel, I always go for a Miyazaki anime, for example. I do like Ang Lee however, I loved his Brokeback Mountain.
Also I agree on all Rocktopus' mentions.

If you disliked Matrix, you should try to get a a copy of Rainer Werner Fassbinder's TV-movie "Welt am Draht", which was based on the same idea as "Matrix" but a million times better. You can order the 2 CDs from WDR TV; I can search for the link if you are interested.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:32
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Jerry Maguire for one. Dreadful movie. Not a huge Forrest Gump fan either. I thought Shawshank Redemption should've won Best Picture that year. Now THAT'S a movie.

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Jerry Maguire was a tragic waste of celluloid.
 
Forrest Gump was a nauseating travesty of a genuinely amusing book.
 
Shawshank was one of those rare examples of a popular film that didn't patronise its audience, although I'm not sure whether it should have won best picture; it was certainly the best on the shortlist, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:43
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Matrix was a major disappointment for me. It teaches the lesson of how to do little with a lot of great ideas.
Titanic was indeed sentimental crap but I wouldn't call it overrated... just sold well.
Never had anything special for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. If I want something with Asian feel, I always go for a Miyazaki anime, for example. I do like Ang Lee however, I loved his Brokeback Mountain.
Also I agree on all Rocktopus' mentions.

If you disliked Matrix, you should try to get a a copy of Rainer Werner Fassbinder's TV-movie "Welt am Draht", which was based on the same idea as "Matrix" but a million times better. You can order the 2 CDs from WDR TV; I can search for the link if you are interested.


Thanks for the tip, I'll look into it. Anyway, I don't dislike Matrix, it can be fun to watch, if you just want to have some fun. I only expected a lot more because of the great ideas it employed and of the praise it got.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:50
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Forrest Gump was a nauseating travesty of a genuinely amusing book.


I find the relation with the original source irrelevant when judging a film. And I always say this, not only because I happen to genuinely like Forrest Gump a lot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:53
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 10:29
By the way... I didn't find a better place to post this...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 12:21
Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

Pirates of the Caribbean II sucked. The effects were good and so was Depp's performance, but the story was unconvincing and Bloom's and Knightley's so-called acting was more wooden than a city of wooden houses.
 
Matrix II and III were just terrible. Why do they all talk like they're suffering from laryngitis in those movies? Again, the effects were okay, but the way the movies were edited was really ineffective and ended up making them mindnumbingly uninteresting to watch. A shame because the first one was pretty good.
 


I never thought of the Matrix II or III as being overrated, I thought most people thought of those movies as being bad to begin with (so do I, they were pretty bad). 

And if you think Pirates II sucked... go see Pirates III... it was much worse.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 12:45
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

These are really overrated:

Magnolia (P.T Anderson)

The Royal Tenebaums (Wes Anderson)
 
I defo agree with you on The Royal Tenebaums, although i never knew it to be all that much hype over it, so i dunno if id call it "overrated" moreso just a really really really bad movie
 
its actualy pretty depressing if i think about it, it just gives you nothing other then... emptyness
 
and Magnolia, i thought it was decent for the most part... the frog bit at the end was just a "wtf" moment, i really didnt see why it happened, and it did drag on a bit , but again i never knew or heard about it being hyped, so i dunno if its overrated either
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 12:55
Not sure if it's classed as a bad film or not, but War of the Worlds is pretty shoddy.  My mate likes it though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 13:03
As for 'The Matrix', it has been a long held belief amongst Doctor Who fans that the whole concept was taken from a 1976 episode called 'The Deadly Assassin'. I love 'The Deadly Assassin' but couldn't stand 'The Matrix'- the action scenes were hyped to the high heavens but anybody who's seen a good Kung Fu movie will have seen far better fight scenes than that. And Keanu Reeves is perhaps the most wooden, least versatile actor I've seen that gets roles in major, big budget Hollywood movies. He hobbles through films with that same facial expression. IMHO, of course.
 
Quentin Tarantino's output mostly never fails to leave me cold, either- 'Reservoir Dogs' was passable but the 'Kill Bill' films were soulless exercises in fanboyism. 'Look at how many Shaw Brothers/Blaxploitation movies I've seen', he seemed to be saying- but why did he need two films to do that?? Apparently his latest, 'Grindhouse', went even further with this, and tanked in the US. Never liked 'Pulp Fiction' at all either.Thumbs%20Down
 
And the much hyped Brit gangster film 'Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels' was dreadful, imho- alleged 'comedy', flashy camera angles, charisma-free actors and woeful dialogue. Not a patch on the truly great, gritty Brit gangster flicks of the 70s like 'Get Carter', 'The Long Good Friday' or 'Villain'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 13:09
I love everything Tarantino has done, and consider him to be the best director of my generation.

The Boondock Saints is my pick for most overrated. Terrible writing, lousy directing, bad acting. I can't understand why anyone likes it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 14:06
I liked "Crouching Tiger..." a lot actually, but I was quite disappointed at "House of Flying Daggers".
 
And I think the entire Harry Potter hype is a result of gross overating. Granted, the books are entertaining, but the filmatizations just are not impressive or interesting in any way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 14:14
W00t! another negative thread except this time we're not bashing musicians or each other. Tongue
 
I loved Crouching Tiger but just could not get into Hidden Dragon at all.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:25
Any of those comic book super hero movies that have come out in the past 7-8 years or so. But Sin City is a classic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:28
I'm not much of a movie critic (I actually enjoy alot of the movies mentioned here), but I have to say that Armageddon is the crappiest movie I've ever seen.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:31
Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Any of those comic book super hero movies that have come out in the past 7-8 years or so.
 
Good thing you brought that up. They've really managed to ruin most of the good old Marvel heroes in those silly new movies. The only one that's kind of okay is the first Spider-Man movie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:34
Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Any of those comic book super hero movies that have come out in the past 7-8 years or so.
 
Good thing you brought that up. They've really managed to ruin most of the good old Marvel heroes in those silly new movies. The only one that's kind of okay is the first Spider-Man movie.


Except Batman Begins, and V for Vendetta, I agree. Those two movies are 3+ stars out of 4. V for Vendetta is a better movie than a graphic novel, IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:34
yeah, most of the superhero films have been poor.. though 'Batman Begins' was incredibly good. The War of the Worlds remake was crap, all the Harry Potters were crap, Matrix was crap, Pearl Harbor was crap, U-571 was crap



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