Should ProgArchives turn into ProgMusicAr

erik neuteboom wrote: For me Kitaro is a pioneering musician who blended electronic - and ethnic (Japanese) music that easily could be described as Progressive Music. I have to admit that he made many (boring) New Age sounding albums. Nonetheless, on this site are a lot of bands that made only a few proggy albums and then pure pop, rock, blues, etc. so there is no reason to exclude Kitaro because of those New Age albums in my opinion.

okay, here's to a friendly conversation about Kitaro :

• not sure what he pioneered, in the 80s; it seems that he mostly had chosen a type of electronic fragrance to stick to it; I don't know other examples of pioneering, yet I don't think Kitaro was the essential emblem
  
• the ethnic thing is good to mention, but has many artificial or popular senses
• if many of his albums are boring, why would the style not be deficitary. in my impression, Kitaro's albums would be, for progressiveness, between one and two stars. Is that a good image of a Prog Artist or a rather desolating one?
• I wouldn't mix pop, rock, blues and all these styles with an artist of New-Age; maybe there's nothing to debate here, but New-Age seems like a treatment beyond the usual effects of mixing some prog value with some edgy non-prog music taste

and very important to tell, it struck me out of the entire quote

• Kitaro didn't make some New-Age albums, he made only New-Age albums; from 1978's Astral Voyage to this year's new album Spiritual Garden, he has made only New-Age albums; and the style is quite continuous too, he mostly started garnishing the melody with more guitar or boost ambient in the 90s, but that's it.
  

don't think I'm not enjoying this wonderful conversation (or am hassling things),  we can do this forever!

Apart from anything else, don't you agree that ProgMusicArchives simply SOUNDS wrong?

I don't remember the technical term for such thingies, but "Progarchives" has exactly the right kind of beat, (strong-weak-strong) whereas "ProgMusicArchives" definitely doesn't.

Ricochet wrote: erik neuteboom wrote: For me Kitaro is a pioneering musician who blended electronic - and ethnic (Japanese) music that easily could be described as Progressive Music. I have to admit that he made many (boring) New Age sounding albums. Nonetheless, on this site are a lot of bands that made only a few proggy albums and then pure pop, rock, blues, etc. so there is no reason to exclude Kitaro because of those New Age albums in my opinion. okay, here's to a friendly conversation about Kitaro : not sure what he pioneered, in the 80s; it seems that he mostly had chosen a type of electronic fragrance to stick to it; I don't know other examples of pioneering, yet I don't think Kitaro was the essential emblem the ethnic thing is good to mention, but has many artificial or popular senses if many of his albums are boring, why would the style not be deficitary. in my impression, Kitaro's albums would be, for progressiveness, between one and two stars. Is that a good image of a Prog Artist or a rather desolating one? I wouldn't mix pop, rock, blues and all these styles with an artist of New-Age; maybe there's nothing to debate here, but New-Age seems like a treatment beyond the usual effects of mixing some prog value with some edgy non-prog music taste and very important to tell, it struck me out of the entire quote Kitaro didn't make some New-Age albums, he made only New-Age albums; from 1978's Astral Voyage to this year's new album Spiritual Garden, he has made only New-Age albums; and the style is quite continuous too, he mostly started garnishing the melody with more guitar or boost ambient in the 90s, but that's it. don't think I'm not enjoying this wonderful conversation (or am hassling things),  we can do this forever!

Er, um, I picked up a Tangerine Dream double live LP some years back at a yard sale. Played it twice & sold it. Sounded new age in the sense that it was mostly "atmosphere" & "mood", i.e. very little memorable melodies or songs. Are they new age ?

debrewguy wrote: Ricochet wrote: erik neuteboom wrote: For me Kitaro is a pioneering musician who blended electronic - and ethnic (Japanese) music that easily could be described as Progressive Music. I have to admit that he made many (boring) New Age sounding albums. Nonetheless, on this site are a lot of bands that made only a few proggy albums and then pure pop, rock, blues, etc. so there is no reason to exclude Kitaro because of those New Age albums in my opinion. okay, here's to a friendly conversation about Kitaro : not sure what he pioneered, in the 80s; it seems that he mostly had chosen a type of electronic fragrance to stick to it; I don't know other examples of pioneering, yet I don't think Kitaro was the essential emblem the ethnic thing is good to mention, but has many artificial or popular senses if many of his albums are boring, why would the style not be deficitary. in my impression, Kitaro's albums would be, for progressiveness, between one and two stars. Is that a good image of a Prog Artist or a rather desolating one? I wouldn't mix pop, rock, blues and all these styles with an artist of New-Age; maybe there's nothing to debate here, but New-Age seems like a treatment beyond the usual effects of mixing some prog value with some edgy non-prog music taste and very important to tell, it struck me out of the entire quote Kitaro didn't make some New-Age albums, he made only New-Age albums; from 1978's Astral Voyage to this year's new album Spiritual Garden, he has made only New-Age albums; and the style is quite continuous too, he mostly started garnishing the melody with more guitar or boost ambient in the 90s, but that's it. don't think I'm not enjoying this wonderful conversation (or am hassling things),  we can do this forever! Er, um, I picked up a Tangerine Dream double live LP some years back at a yard sale. Played it twice & sold it. Sounded new age in the sense that it was mostly "atmosphere" & "mood", i.e. very little memorable melodies or songs. Are they new age ?

Of course not. Tangerine Dream even tries to outdone new-age, thanks to ambient, melody electronic, pop dynamic or so (or thanks to an ego of playing different atmospheres and ambiances, even when their...atmosphere and ambiances). Not that they succeed every time, during the 90s,, just that they dry a much broadened approach from it.

Did you randomly pick your Tangerine Dream album? Cause, even with the 90s of new-age, ambient, pop melody and atmosphere programming, Tangerine Dream is still responsible for one of the clearest music patterns of progressive electronic, up in the 70s, going from space rock to analog sequence, from sound sensation to dynamic and melodic attraction.

So I can't see the business with Tangerine Dream being called new-age, at least not entirely, unless there is a bad connection of knowing it (or not sticking to the essential). neither do I see where that leads to Kitaro, who has done such a massive work of new-age, and barely something comes to sound like Tangerine Dream.