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Chris H 
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 08 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
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 Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:27 |
 mystic fred wrote:
one way to sort this out would be to create a sister site called "Rock Archives", and if it was successful we could create a site called "Jazz Archives", then one called "Blues Archives" , then "Classic Archives"....then......
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And then " Pop-Rock Emo Archives"??? 
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Beauty will save the world.
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The Doctor
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Joined: June 23 2005
Location: The Tardis
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:28 |
Yes, Prog Archives should be renamed Prog Music Archives. Otherwise people might think it has to do with Prog Automobiles, or Prog Reading Material, or Prog Gun Collecting. 
To be honest, I don't think the Who really belong here, although I'm a big fan of their music and think they occasionally show prog flourishes. I don't even think Zeppelin belongs here, although I don't really like this band. However, I'm not going to get upset by the inclusion of bands which I don't necessarily think of as prog. And I'm not opposed to a more expansive "prog related" category where bands which a good majority of prog-lovers might also get enjoyment from are listed. So there's my two cents which really wasn't even worth that.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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explodingjosh
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 10 2007
Location: United States
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:32 |
mystic fred wrote:
one way to sort this out would be to create a sister site called "Rock Archives", and if it was successful we could create a site called "Jazz Archives", then one called "Blues Archives" , then "Classic Archives"....then......
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 I would never leave my computer. Sooo many times have I dreamed about a collection of websites as comprehensive as this one, especially for Classical.
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Finnforest
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Joined: February 03 2007
Location: The Heartland
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:34 |
I really wish they would actually tighten the scope of the site and keep it truly prog. I hate to see it continue to slide to the point of this being an all out rock site. Leave the name alone and keep it truly PROG. That is what makes it special in the first place.
Just my opinion.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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vingaton
Forum Newbie
Joined: March 09 2007
Location: Canada
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:36 |
from darkmatter
"Then it would just be a music website. "
It already is
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I want to see beyond that tree
And defy the force of gravity
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fuxi
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 08 2006
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 2461
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:36 |
The Doctor wrote:
I don't think the Who really belong here, although I'm a big fan of their music and think they occasionally show prog flourishes. |
I totally agree. I also think the present system is perfectly fine!
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darkmatter
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 23 2006
Location: New Jersey
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Points: 2760
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:37 |
vingaton wrote:
from darkmatter
"Then it would just be a music website. "
It already is
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You know what I mean, it would just be a rock music website, rather than a progressive rock website.
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Disconnect
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 02 2007
Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:38 |
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Leave it as is. If I personally think something isn't prog, I simply don't listen to it. It doesn't bother me if it's on this site.
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StyLaZyn
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 22 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:38 |
I think that since there is select music by non-Prog bands that contains many Prog elements, a special browseable section of this material would be nice.
The Who was mentioned. I consider Tommy and Quadrophenia both Progressive, but that is essentially the extent of The Who's progressive efforts, or at least what comes to mind.
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vingaton
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Location: Canada
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:40 |
from darkmatter
'You know what I mean, it would just be a rock music website, rather than a progressive rock website."
it already is
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I want to see beyond that tree
And defy the force of gravity
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explodingjosh
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 10 2007
Location: United States
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Points: 507
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:42 |
Finnforest wrote:
I really wish they would actually tighten the scope of the site and keep it truly prog. I hate to see it continue to slide to the point of this being an all out rock site. Leave the name alone and keep it truly PROG. That is what makes it special in the first place.
Just my opinion. |
Those "sister" websites are looking real good...
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Dean
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Joined: May 13 2007
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:42 |
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How about a "mentioned in dispatches" section that just lists the nearlies and the wannabies who are not quite prog (yet)
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What?
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darkmatter
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 23 2006
Location: New Jersey
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Points: 2760
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:46 |
vingaton wrote:
from darkmatter
'You know what I mean, it would just be a rock music website, rather than a progressive rock website."
it already is
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Are you trying to be obnoxious? Don't be so petty. What I was saying is that if this website was loaded with bands that weren't truly progressive rock bands, this website would become a rock music website without a focus on progressive rock.
Edited by darkmatter - June 21 2007 at 15:56
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Trademark
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:47 |
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Tighten up the focus of the site on Progressive Rock only.
AXE the prog-related category altogether, or at the very least remove them from the ratings algorythm. The day an Iron Maiden or Deep Purlple album makes the top 20, I quit the site.
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Sckxyss
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Joined: May 05 2007
Location: Canada
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Points: 1319
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:57 |
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I don't mind the prog related category, but I agree with Trademark that it should be completely separate from the top 100. I don't see what changing the name of the site would accomplish, as I don't see how "Prog" explicitly refers to "progressive rock", espcecially by today's standards.
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vingaton
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Location: Canada
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:58 |
Stonebeard said
"What I was saying is that if this website was loaded with bands that weren't truly progressive rock bands"
I have observed that almost every inclusion these days gets somebody's goat, in that members and guest alike figure say a band like Santana or Radiohead or Deep Purple (me) or even Queen do not belong here. Someone always objects anyway. So, why not just continue on being inclusive? I mean....whats the problem with the site having a larger scope and less subjectivity. It has expended its rockasphere already. Why not continue on and grow? Thats what the word "progressive" means.
I hope that is clearer and a less "obnoxious" a response.
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vingaton
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:59 |
Stonebeard said
"What I was saying is that if this website was loaded with bands that weren't truly progressive rock bands"
sorry....I guess that was darkmatter
I appologize
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I want to see beyond that tree
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explodingjosh
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 10 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 507
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 16:06 |
Hmm... so expand the "Proto" and "Related" sections, but do not include them in the Top 100. I like that idea. That means the Top 100 would be 100% prog albums, which would be cool, and there'd be more beloved bands on the site.
Sounds like a nice compromise, guys...  |
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akin
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Joined: February 06 2004
Location: Brazil
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Points: 976
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 16:06 |
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The proposed idea is a bad idea. If it is hard to define which band is progressive or not, imagine to define the "progressive ideas". Millions of bands arguably have progressive ideas.
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group
Site Admin
Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: June 21 2007 at 16:09 |
darkmatter wrote:
... if this website was loaded with bands that weren't truly progressive rock bands, this website would become a rock music website without a focus on progressive rock.
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Or, if I had my way, it would became a progressive music website without such focus on rock. "Progarchives.com: Your ultimate modern progressive music resource". I'd like to see more acts (bands/ composers) that 'push the boundaries of music' and experiment even if they are not rock-based. I would set temporal limits, however, even if I'd rather like to see Tallis, for instance, here for his 16th Century progressive music. But I do expect this to remain a "band" rather than "composer" based website.
Edited by Logan - June 21 2007 at 16:13
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