Is the USA a big bully these days? |
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StyLaZyn
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
Topic: Is the USA a big bully these days? Posted: June 11 2007 at 17:03 |
This poll is more out of curiosity than anything. |
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andu
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 17:06 |
No. Around this part of the world the bully is Russia. US external affairs have good effects on/in our country.
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Vompatti
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67407 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 17:20 |
I guess they are, but Coca-Cola is still a fine product. Actually, I don't have an opinion.
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 17:26 |
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Scapler
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 2567 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 19:12 |
No
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Bassists are deadly
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BroSpence
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 05 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2614 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 22:24 |
Yes. Unfortunately, a country that speaks of freedom and prosperity does not actually believe in it as much as it says it does. At least all the people that are supposed to represent the citizens don't. It is said that countries act on their own interest, but that interest comes from within the individuals running that country.
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rushaholic
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 13 2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1138 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 22:34 |
^^ Of course we believe in freedom and prosperity. And yes, some of the those that represent us have their own agendas. But this country is about freedom and opportunity.
I say NO. We are not a bully. I think a lot of others just want something to pick at. They see the U.S. and what it represents and they start picking. Yeah, yeah - you all don't like George Bush. So what. Get over it. You only have to hear about him for 18 more months. |
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65266 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 22:41 |
though we sometimes bully the world, we seem to bully our own citizens more. Strange, that.
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 23:45 |
Yea, a lil bit. But I personally dont think we "bully" the world as much as we rule it economically.
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el böthy
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 23:51 |
Im afraid to awnser that... I dont want my lunch monye be taken away...
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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KoS
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 16310 |
Posted: June 11 2007 at 23:52 |
We just misuse the words, "freedom" and "democracy" a lot.
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Chicapah
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8238 |
Posted: June 12 2007 at 08:42 |
Sorry, but "bullies" don't send billions of donated dollars, supplies and aid to Tsunami victims. Say or think what you want but the USA is more generous than any other country on earth. Check out how much aid the huge China sent to their needy neighbors.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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Vompatti
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67407 |
Posted: June 12 2007 at 09:06 |
I wonder how much of that money went to the poor? |
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StyLaZyn
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
Posted: June 12 2007 at 09:10 |
We might rule it in the sense of demanding imports. I think the USA days are numbered with India and China becoming more economically developed. The US is losing hundreds of jobs to foriegn countries as well. I think Bill Clinton was on the money when he talked about a Global Economy and the US needing to position itself for that happening.
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 35886 |
Posted: June 12 2007 at 09:56 |
Actually, the US does not rank high amongst developed Western nations for its percent of gross domestic income devoted to charity. While American individuals are very generous, state sponsored money is not so generous. And it's "the state" that people blame for bullying -- an aggressive "America first" foreign policy prone to "gun boat" diplomacy. You might find this an interesting analysis: http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp Even if that were true, that argument would not hold water though. Do you think that the US government puts more into charitable relief work or the military industrial complex? And is the US military acting primarily for the greater good (in international dealings)? Of course its first job is to protect American citizens. I see US foreign policy as very invasive and bullying (both economic policy as well as military objectives). I don't see this as anything new either... Look at the state's dealings in Latin America and around the world for many years. Look at the dictatorship's that have been supported through American intervention. The US state has a record for not adhering to international law and treaties. The US is one of many countries that use coercive tactics, but as the major economic and military power, people do focus on it. As for China, China has a terrible record. As Bush put it, "You're either with us, or against us." Edited by Logan - June 12 2007 at 09:59 |
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: June 12 2007 at 10:00 |
Just to nit-pick a bit....
Bush said...."You're either with us,or with the TERRORISTS".
It's no different really,just a matter a semantics,but I had to point that out.
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StyLaZyn
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
Posted: June 12 2007 at 10:09 |
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"
Actually, Bush is too dumb to even make it as a Sith. He probably didn't even write that line though, but because he said it means he agrees with it.
His statement is that type of a bully. Using your upper hand to try and force someone to your will is just evil.
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 35886 |
Posted: June 12 2007 at 10:12 |
No problem, needs pointing out for context, and I actually knew that. He also said, "You're either with is, or against us in the fight against terror." Forgot to include ellipses. I though it rather a silly, veiled threat though that presented a false dichotomy of positions -- too polarising, One can be against the Bush administration's fight on terror without being with the terrorists.
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Chicapah
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8238 |
Posted: June 12 2007 at 10:33 |
My point with the generosity was that the populace of the USA is highly generous when asked to contribute to a cause on a personal basis. Government as an entity is typically and inherently (to a large extent) self-serving and corrupt so there's only so much one can do with one's vote but when asked to donate to disaster relief we come through big time. Whether that money gets spent on the ones who need it most is beyond our control but if we let that be a bigger issue than the need then none of us would ever give a cent.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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StyLaZyn
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
Posted: June 12 2007 at 10:39 |
Ironic how the collective are generous but the those that control the collective are guilty of the duplicitous self-serving crimes.
Also, many peoples of the world will exhibit generosity, right? The USA is not the only peoples to exhibit this. It is a function of humanity.
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