Genesis duplication

Tuzvihar wrote: Someone has added Gebnesis A Trick of the Tail SACD/DVD reedition. I think there shouldn't be more than one entries for the same album. All the information should be added to the original entry instead.

Well if you take a look at the link, you'll see the new version is a double disc release, one SACD and one DVD; it's got lots of new materials like video footage and multimedia tracks, a different conception. That is by no means an equivalent of the 1976 "Trick" release, but something basically different! How on Earth could the same rating apply to the 1976 8 songs vinyl LP and to this multi-layered Genesis library? IMO that would be absurd.

andu wrote: Well if you take a look at the link, you'll see the new version is a double disc release, one SACD and one DVD; it's got lots of new materials like video footage and multimedia tracks, a different conception. That is by no means an equivalent of the 1976 "Trick" release, but something basically different! How on Earth could the same rating apply to the 1976 8 songs vinyl LP and to this multi-layered Genesis library? IMO that would be absurd.

Spot on.

Normally, if a SACD version of Trick or a SACD version of Trick with some bonus unreleased tracks would have been the case of this addition, I would have suported the deletion of the entry. But the second CD, containing from tracks to videos, made me think this is a proper new addition.

A compilation IMO, Bob, despite being a re-released studio album. The "studio album" of it is the 1976 album, and the video material is a compiled bonus feature.


Edited by Ricochet - June 02 2007 at 04:26

I don't remember the PULSE DVD debate, but I must agree the matter is delicate and should be discussed. I also thought about this: where can be drawn the line between a re-release and a true upgrade of an original release? In this particular case things are obvious, but I'm sure there are many other albums where the line would be very difficult - if not impossible - to draw.
I'm a purist: if an album gets re-released with a couple of bonus tracks, than it's a different thing for me. I'm not advocating this position, I just want you to be aware of it. What I do advocate is to add upgraded versions as new releases, following some guidelines established upon consent with the site owners and admin team. (My own view of the guidelines would that a re-issued album needs a new entry except for the case when the bonus audio tracks are only versions/different takes or edits of the songs from the original release).
Then, in order not to make a mess with the discographies by including so many new entries, a new presentation of the Album List would be needed. I would see it like this: a main switch button that allows you to see the discography of the band in two different ways:
1. with all entries in the same list,
2. with different lists for A. original studio releases and live releases B. singles and compilations and C. re-releases ("upgrades")
I know this is more of a fantasy, for example it would be useful for those bands with huge discographies (like King Crimson), but it would only complicate things for the thousands bands with only a few releases. Maybe if there were more opinions on the matter we could get a better solution.

PULSE was originally a VHS video .... it was remastered and released on DVD [for the first time] a year or so ago with lots of extras as a 2DVD set.

IMO this is either a re-issue of Trick Of The Tail or it isn't. If it is, then it should go  on the original entry.