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Chicapah
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Posted: May 01 2007 at 10:21 |
When I got married 4 years ago and I moved in with my new wife the only place to put my 6 orange crates of LPs was in a closet so small that I couldn't get to my records without taking everything out of said closet (my wife is a pack rat so you do the math) which usually turned into an hour-long (at a minimum) ordeal. About 5 months ago I decided to go back and write reviews of my catalogue of progressive rock so I started listening to vinyl again. I have to say that the "warmth" concept of analog records is true. It's not a myth or a figment of nostalgic imagination. I still enjoy cds just fine but last weekend I put on my pristine copy of ELO's "Eldorado" and was blown away by the rich depth I was hearing. Now, I don't have a hi-fi system to brag about (Sony amp, JBL speakers, Fisher turntable) but it's not a heap by any means. It's a real treat to hear albums this way. I'm not saying LPs are better, just amazingly different.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 01 2007 at 11:59 |
Of course, analog is miles beyond.
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tardis
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Posted: May 02 2007 at 15:20 |
Vinyl ~ best for sound.
CD ~ best for convenience.
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Posted: May 02 2007 at 17:16 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Of course, analog is miles beyond. |
Shhh!
Mike might hear you!
(I totally agree, BTW).
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 03 2007 at 01:57 |
Of course I'm keeping an eye on this thread ... but what would be the point in starting the whole discussion again? Ultimately these arguments are decided by our ears, not by theoretical considerations.
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Posted: May 03 2007 at 02:57 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Of course I'm keeping an eye on this thread ... but what would be the point in starting the whole discussion again? Ultimately these arguments are decided by our ears, not by theoretical considerations.
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Indeed - science can prove that the bumblebee cannot, in fact fly.
The bumblebee does not know this...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 03 2007 at 03:04 |
^ interesting analogy. But while I believe in bumblebees I still don't think that humans can hear beyond 20khz (make that 18khz for almost any adult person) ... which is why I don't think that Olivier's usual "numeric is bad" argument is valid.
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Philéas
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Posted: May 03 2007 at 10:59 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Indeed - science can prove that the bumblebee cannot, in fact fly.
The bumblebee does not know this... |
A couple of years ago it was proven that bumblebees actually can fly. That's probably the reason why they do.
Edited by Philéas - May 03 2007 at 11:01
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mystic fred
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 04:46 |
well well - one of the first posts i made almost the day i joined PA - it certainly put the cat among the pigeons!
I'm still very much into my vinyl these days, the fascination hasn't abated especially since upgrading my system, and digging through my old records is great fun, so it's lucky i never got rid of them!
Still play cd's, though wish some new releases came in LP form, such as the new PT album.
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 04:51 |
I buy CDs but the one thing I really regret is selling my vinyl Zep boots.. some came with beautiful gatefold covers and great photos.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:27 |
mystic fred wrote:
well well - one of the first posts i made almost the day i joined PA - it certainly put the cat among the pigeons!
I'm still very much into my vinyl these days, the fascination hasn't abated especially since upgrading my system, and digging through my old records is great fun, so it's lucky i never got rid of them!
Still play cd's, though wish some new releases came in LP form, such as the new PT album.
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Has the new PT already been released as LP? I bought the limited edition (DVD-Audio) instead ... I think that 5.1 DVD-Audio is currently the best possible format, but whether it works or not of course depends on the mix.
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:40 |
Exactly! I've never heard a good one yet.
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:42 |
I do prefer ELP's Brain Salad Surgery, Genesis Nursery Cryme, and Pink Floyd's Meddle on vinyl its just a real shame that vinyl is fading away.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 06:16 |
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Exactly! I've never heard a good one yet. |
Which ones have you heard?
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 08:55 |
Philéas wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
Indeed - science can prove that the bumblebee cannot, in fact fly.
The bumblebee does not know this... |
A couple of years ago it was proven that bumblebees actually can fly. That's probably the reason why they do.
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Science can prove anything it likes
However, the "proof" of the urban myth about the bee came about after comparing bumblebee wings to 747 wings - which is a bit like comparing an oil-based vinyl compound with an aluminium-based material, given that bumblebee wings are not rigid like a 747's wings
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tardis
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 10:56 |
Vinyl makes good frisbees.
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Posted: May 13 2007 at 18:00 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Exactly! I've never heard a good one yet. |
the new PT one's pretty good though!
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Asyte2c00
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Posted: May 13 2007 at 18:02 |
CD, better packaging (see Sigur Ros and Tool) beteer sound quality
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:06 |
mystic fred wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
Exactly! I've never heard a good one yet. |
the new PT one's pretty good though!
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Agreed ... Steven Wilson is a sound quality perfectionist. I'll definitely buy the vinyl edition too if I get the chance ... I also have the DVD-Audio version.
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Posted: May 20 2007 at 15:46 |
I haven't had the chance to listen to many LP's, but i was stunned how good the sound quality was when i lsitened to Dark Side and Hotel California on vinyl. The sound quality was just as good as CDs, yet it also seemed to have a warm/rich quality to it as well that's a little hard to describe
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