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Points: 103 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2007 at 04:39
Originally posted by Keppa4v Keppa4v wrote:

I've never been a fan of Vapor Trails as an album, but oh boy how good it felt after about five listens of S&A. Yes, it's too long and the sound is pretty bad
 
I've never been a great fan of Vapor Trails, but as was mentioned before without Caress of Steel there would have been no 2112, so if there had been no Vapor Trails would  there have been a Snakes and Arrows?
 
I must disagree that Snakes is too long and the sound is bad. Snakes is one of the best sounding albums sonce about Hold Your Fire, or perhaps Counterparts.
 
Of course, everyone misses Broon and how he produced Rush and i think quietly that we all miss the Rush epics that may us love them so much.
 
But for me Snakes is the best Rush album since Power Windows. Bring on the European leg of the tour! October 14th!
 
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Points: 7659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2007 at 06:45
Today I was in 3 records shops, all S&A cd's were sold out and one manager (son of the owner of Manus, the legendary progrock record shop on De Groende Zijde in Den Haag) told me that this new Rush album is the best selling Rush record since many years Thumbs%20Up ! So I have to wait a few days before I can finally listen to Snakes & Arrows, I have to be patient Unhappy By the way, just another euphoric 5 star review on the homepage ....
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Points: 3928 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2007 at 06:49
That 'euphoric review' does the album no favours at all, imho. Still, I'm not surprised this is seemingly a big seller- there are a glut of bands around at the mo such as Mars Volta, Coheed and Cambria etc. that owe a certain something to Rush's sound, imho, so perhaps some have been inspired to check out the 'mentors' so to speak.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2007 at 07:37
Originally posted by MajesterX MajesterX wrote:

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:



Brought to you by the letter A


That reminds me- what's the story behind the whole "brought to you by the letter...." in the album packets?
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Erik, I'm not sure this album is for you. Its modern Rush songs, but with a little old sound chucked in. Good album all round.
 
I got into Rush because I liked Rush, not because they were a prog band, that was of no consequence. As they have changed, I still like them. They are still Rush! I like Roll The Bones myself and think all the songs are uniformly excellent. Same goes for Test For Echo, though Counterparts leaves me a bit cold.
 
Not for you though I think, if you havent liked their product for the last 5 or 6 albums.
 
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Points: 7659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2007 at 07:47
No, I haven't, not at all  Wink .... !
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Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

No, I haven't, not at all  Wink .... !
 
There you go then. I don't think you will find S&A different enough!
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Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Leave it Erik, there are many other bands you can listen to...
Rush was once great (for em not as much as some think...but) but they complety lost it... a good  while ago
 
You are so right.
 
Rush is definitely not great based on their fantastic album sales and highly successful tours.
 
Some people just like to bash Rush. Ouch
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I got into Rush because I liked Rush, not because they were a prog band, that was of no consequence. As they have changed, I still like them. They are still Rush! 
 
I'm right that with that reality.  I loved the Rush sound for years.  Prog sound or not, they have always clicked with me.


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Hi,
I'm from Québec, and I'm not very goog in english...I'll try...
 
I'm a big Rush fan, since I discovered Presto and Chronicles.
 
I bought SnA yesterday.
 
It's so different. I like Far Cry, a VT song in style. But the rest...I'm confused. I don't recognize the old and good Rush. The bad took a new direction. I'll need more listening...
 
I like The Larger Bowl, Hope and Bravest Man...
 
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I've heard a couple of tracks on the radio, planet rock don't you know. I quite like it.
I'm looking forward to seeing Rush again later this year.
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Look at the last 10 reviews on the homepage about the new Rush album Snakes & Arrows, the ratings alternate between 1 and 4 stars Wacko !
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I haven't been interested in Rush since "Signals."
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Is it just me, or is it a bit early for all these people to be writing reviews?  You can't find out if an album stands up to the repeated listening test if you haven't had time to listen to it a ton.... My opinion of an album tends to change the longer I have it.  I intend to write one at some point, but I'm going to take my time!

That's also why I have only written one review so far... and it was with a piece of material that I was extremely familiar with, having watched it many times over about 15 years.
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Originally posted by StarsongAgeless StarsongAgeless wrote:

Is it just me, or is it a bit early for all these people to be writing reviews?  You can't find out if an album stands up to the repeated listening test if you haven't had time to listen to it a ton.... My opinion of an album tends to change the longer I have it.  I intend to write one at some point, but I'm going to take my time!

That's also why I have only written one review so far... and it was with a piece of material that I was extremely familiar with, having watched it many times over about 15 years.
 
If you notice, there is a one star rating by someone who joined today. Seems fishy to me.  Anyone who claims to be a fan of any band for years and gives a recent release one star is another thing that seems odd. Confused
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Points: 1210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2007 at 14:51
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by StarsongAgeless StarsongAgeless wrote:

Is it just me, or is it a bit early for all these people to be writing reviews?  You can't find out if an album stands up to the repeated listening test if you haven't had time to listen to it a ton.... My opinion of an album tends to change the longer I have it.  I intend to write one at some point, but I'm going to take my time!

That's also why I have only written one review so far... and it was with a piece of material that I was extremely familiar with, having watched it many times over about 15 years.
 
If you notice, there is a one star rating by someone who joined today. Seems fishy to me.  Anyone who claims to be a fan of any band for years and gives a recent release one star is another thing that seems odd. Confused


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Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

I haven't been interested in Rush since "Signals."
Same here. I  think they should do another Signals tour. Definately my favourite Rush album. I can`t help it but I think these guys should have thrown the towel in years ago. Bring on the hate mailTongue.
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For me it's easily the best Rush album since the mid-80s. Put it this way, it's the first album of their to hold my attention all the way through since Hold Your Fire (back in the day when I didn't cringe at its 80s production values). That alone is enough for me to give it a whole-hearted recommendation.
I think there's a lot in there fans of old school Rush will really enjoy. I can't believe there people here decrying the fact that the band has concentrated on (heaven forbid) songs!! what a load of crap. Rush started out as a melody-based, song-oriented hard rock band, embraced prog and fusion along the way and have turned back to the song as art form - so what. They can't go on making La Villa Strangiato - it's just not where they're at any more. Get over it. Anyway, I defy anyone here to tell me Tom Sawyer or Red Barchetta aren't brilliantly worked pop songs.
Give Snakes and Arrows a listen. The production's lovely, there's some great tunes on there and they sound more relaxed and enjoying the process than they have since maybe Signals.   
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Points: 17068 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:47
Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

I haven't been interested in Rush since "Signals."


That's too bad...my favorite album by them.


Originally posted by arcer arcer wrote:

Give Snakes and Arrows a listen. The production's lovely, there's some great tunes on there and they sound more relaxed and enjoying the process than they have since maybe Signals.


I picked it up for cheap after work on Tuesday, and after avoiding all the pre-release press, fan criticisms and leaked MP3s, it fulfilled my expectations as another rock-solid entry in the boys' catalogue. The first two songs are fantastic, the instrumentals (especially the second two) are royal ass-rippers, and the closing song is a typically strong one up there with "Out Of The Cradle," "Available Light," "Mystic Rhythms," etc. The production is much better than on Vapor Trails, of course, and that seems to be the reason why more people are embracing it! Which other band's members are fiftysomethings and rock this well?
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Points: 7659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:50
I just read the review on the Dutch progrock site Progwereld: the reviewer mentions the 'warm studio sound', the stunning instrumentals including the one with Alex playing very exciting acoustic instruments and for the rest Rush delivers solid rock songs with strong vocals, excellent musicianship, he compares Snakes & Arrows with Counterparts and explaines that the title has to do with yoga Wink and he complaines about the poor cover art Unhappy Well, I am still in heavy doubts, between Arcer " his recommendation ("Give Snakes and Arrows a listen. The production's lovely, there's some great tunes on there and they sound more relaxed and enjoying the process than they have since maybe Signals.") and Snow Dog his advise ( Avoid! ) ...
 
    
 
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