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Proletariat
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:48 |
timesignature wrote:
I made myself misunderstood. I came on revealing such musical knowledge that I have (I'm makeing fun of myself). Its true. The majority of people who are involved with music think they know it all. My sister is one of them, and me. Sorry for bitchin, I definitely need to find others to play with so I can learn to trust others advice better. I'm just a simple musician who loves music. |
I suggest that you grab a couple of your friends sit down and play, with no prewritten music and NO talking, it helps you learn to appritiate other peoples ideas.
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timesignature
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:46 |
I made myself misunderstood. I came on revealing such musical knowledge that I have (I'm makeing fun of myself). Its true. The majority of people who are involved with music think they know it all. My sister is one of them, and me. Sorry for bitchin, I definitely need to find others to play with so I can learn to trust others advice better. I'm just a simple musician who loves music.
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:46 |
Matt Dickens wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that about 99% of prog fans seem convinced that they know more than everyone else. I am not like this. I do, in fact, know everything. |
Actually, if you really do know everything, then you would be worshiping me right now. Ex: "Oh, Atomic Underscore Rooster, thou art the most radioactive of male ostriches!"
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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Matt Dickens
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:44 |
Proletariat wrote:
Matt Dickens wrote:
Proletariat wrote:
Matt Dickens wrote:
You little sumbitch, when they learned me real good about life in school they telled me not to take no crap from nobody. Suck it.
Proletariat wrote:
Matt Dickens wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that about 99% of prog fans seem convinced that they know more than everyone else. I am not like this. I do, in fact, know everything. |
Whats in my pocketses?
yea I didnt think so B***! |
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Sorry, I will now prosede to "suck it" |
Well, dickweed, you can't even spell procede right. Did noone ever teach you how to use English good? |
you must excuse my ADD it can be quite annoying.
also my aixelsid seems to get in the way of proppre garmmer and pselling at timse
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good tymes
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If it ain't broke don't break it.
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Proletariat
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:42 |
Matt Dickens wrote:
Proletariat wrote:
Matt Dickens wrote:
You little sumbitch, when they learned me real good about life in school they telled me not to take no crap from nobody. Suck it.
Proletariat wrote:
Matt Dickens wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that about 99% of prog fans seem convinced that they know more than everyone else. I am not like this. I do, in fact, know everything. |
Whats in my pocketses?
yea I didnt think so B***! |
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Sorry, I will now prosede to "suck it" |
Well, dickweed, you can't even spell procede right. Did noone ever teach you how to use English good? |
you must excuse my ADD it can be quite annoying.
also my aixelsid seems to get in the way of proppre garmmer and pselling at timse
and
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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Matt Dickens
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:39 |
Proletariat wrote:
Matt Dickens wrote:
You little sumbitch, when they learned me real good about life in school they telled me not to take no crap from nobody. Suck it.
Proletariat wrote:
Matt Dickens wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that about 99% of prog fans seem convinced that they know more than everyone else. I am not like this. I do, in fact, know everything. |
Whats in my pocketses?
yea I didnt think so B***! |
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Sorry, I will now prosede to "suck it" |
Well, dickweed, you can't even spell procede right. Did noone ever teach you how to use English good?
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If it ain't broke don't break it.
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Matt Dickens
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:38 |
timesignature wrote:
Found effetism... I have not attempted to flaunt about myself, I only praised others that I have witnessed with such talent. The one thing that is implied by my thread is that I am not of such musical talent, and an no where near such talent. I'm sorry if I sounded like a dick... I'm still just a teenager with rageing horomones. |
I didnt intend my statement to be taken seriously. I feel for you though. I guess I'm spoiled. Even though I am from a pretty small town in Kentucky I know of at least five very phenomenal drummers to come out of our town. I've had the privelege of playing with a few of them. I started off as a drummer so I truly appreciate great drummers. The ones that are easy to play with no matter what you play. I also understand the raging hormones thing. I myself am still in high school.
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If it ain't broke don't break it.
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Proletariat
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:35 |
Matt Dickens wrote:
You little sumbitch, when they learned me real good about life in school they telled me not to take no crap from nobody. Suck it.
Proletariat wrote:
Matt Dickens wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that about 99% of prog fans seem convinced that they know more than everyone else. I am not like this. I do, in fact, know everything. |
Whats in my pocketses?
yea I didnt think so B***! |
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Sorry, I will now prosede to "suck it"
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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Matt Dickens
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:34 |
You little sumbitch, when they learned me real good about life in school they telled me not to take no crap from nobody. Suck it.
Proletariat wrote:
Matt Dickens wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that about 99% of prog fans seem convinced that they know more than everyone else. I am not like this. I do, in fact, know everything. |
Whats in my pocketses?
yea I didnt think so B***! |
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If it ain't broke don't break it.
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Proletariat
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:29 |
Matt Dickens wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that about 99% of prog fans seem convinced that they know more than everyone else. I am not like this. I do, in fact, know everything. |
Whats in my pocketses?
yea I didnt think so B***!
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:28 |
In my post, you wasn't referring to you (singular) but to you (plural). My point was that people who are really dedicated to composition don't normally care a lot (obviously they do to some degree) about fame, otherwise everyone would make r&b influenced pop music with lame innuendos and leak sex tapes of themselves onto the internet. Fame is not a requisite to the creative process, and it can be negative in fact (the strain of success has driven many artists to suicide and even... selling out - in order to keep the level of success they had). Think what Yes and Genesis might have created if they had not been worried about financial success and fame (perhaps 20 more years of Close to the Edge/Selling England By the Pound quality work).
Effetism is the noun form of the adjective effete.
Ok, I'm going to stop wasting our time by continuing this discussion.
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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timesignature
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:26 |
Found effetism... I have not attempted to flaunt about myself, I only praised others that I have witnessed with such talent. The one thing that is implied by my thread is that I am not of such musical talent, and an no where near such talent. I'm sorry if I sounded like a dick... I'm still just a teenager with rageing horomones.
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Matt Dickens
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:24 |
Has anyone ever noticed that about 99% of prog fans seem convinced that they know more than everyone else. I am not like this. I do, in fact, know everything.
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If it ain't broke don't break it.
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timesignature
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:21 |
imagine... a section of such guitar playing technicality as Between the Buried and Me on that one song with the 7/8 and 13/8 scalar begining, but with a thrashing off beat drummer.
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timesignature
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:17 |
where did the subject of achieving fame come from? I discussed those who would not achieve fame who deserve it, and in no way acted as though I was working toward such a thing. There are millions of people trying to make it in music, I would be one in such a vast number. The probability of me achieving fame without any connections, editing equipment other than my home computer, and a rickety squire strat is one in a trillion. No, music is a hobby, my career is in the field of science and mathematics.
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Proletariat
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:13 |
^^^
in that case I have been playing guitar for 2 years. I practise my @$$ off. I have tried to learn and many scales, modes etc. as I can. however I never use them as I tend to like to use melody and harmony only sparingly. I tend tward pure dissonance and noise (think sonic youth) I am completley unable to comprehend time signatures as of now but im trying i swear.
ps. you could go like the velvet underground and get a drummer with no experience or theory, that would kill
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timesignature
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:12 |
what does effetism mean? I'm not being sarcastic - I couldn't find it in the thesaures.
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timesignature
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:08 |
that is not what I meant to do. Notice the title of the thread. True I do discuss the fact that those in my local area are inept at music, but this was not a comment for discussion, this was my narrating of the story of my musical journey. Many things said since then have been due to other comments made that were not of the original conversation, therefore my replies had to do with the subject of those who commented. Therefore, you were not reading between the lines, but you were reading what was said by and in reply to those who were. Therefore your translation of this thread has strayed from the initial.
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Proletariat
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:06 |
The most origional thing you could do would be to mutilate kittens, record the sounds, and mix them into a crazy 555/666 signature while incorperating bits of Amizonian tribal music and free experimentation on unused instruments such as the comb and wax paper, armpit, broken music boxes, and electric jug (like the 13th floor elivators)
but thats just an idea
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:00 |
Timesignature: your thread appears to be merely an excuse to flaunt your supposed musical effetism and condescension. At least that is how you have been portraying yourself (and no I have not been reading into your statements, but rather reading them plainly) Why would you complain and b!tch about people and their "musical ineptitude" if you want this to become a forum for discussion musical journeys? Why mention your problem if you do not wish to discuss it? - These are rhetorical questions If you have a problem with trying to achieve fame, then musical composition isn't something you're cut-out for. We don't live in the Classical or Romantic eras anymore, so composers can't expect to gain recognition because a feeling of self-entitlement they have about their accomplishments. Sure, John Williams, Phillip Glass, etc... are famous and successful (though I would debate the value of Williams' compositions) but neither would tell you they wrote their music for fame. Glass wouldn't have written Einstein at the Beach if he wanted to be famous (its more infamous than famous for its lack of intermission and attempts to explain general relativity), he would have just kept his job as a professional wrestler (El Diablo). So, despite whatever your intentions may be, your comments appear to be contradictory and confused (as evidenced by the many posters who appear to have posted to your dissatisfaction). - clowns for you
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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