Forum Home Forum Home > Site News, Newbies, Help and Improvements > Report errors & omissions here
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Various Genres definition
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedVarious Genres definition

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Tuzvihar View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 18 2005
Location: C. Schinesghe
Status: Offline
Points: 13536
Direct Link To This Post Topic: Various Genres definition
    Posted: March 30 2007 at 17:42

Various Genres definition

Albums or CD's where more than one artist is featured either as a SAMPLER or a TRIBUTE to a particular band. Examples: - Peter and The Wolf - Prog Fairytale - 1975 / The Reading Room - 2000 / Leonardo - The Absolute Man - 2001 / Best Prog Rock Album in the World... Ever - 2003 / Un Voyage En Progressif Volume 1 to 8 / Kalevala - A Finnish Progressive Rock Epic.




When more than one artist is featured on a particular album it doesn't mean that the album belongs to various genres of prog. What if the featured artists belong to the same genre? Confused


Edited by Tuzvihar - March 30 2007 at 17:47
"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."

Charles Bukowski
Back to Top
Tuzvihar View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 18 2005
Location: C. Schinesghe
Status: Offline
Points: 13536
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2007 at 17:44
Besides if it's a tribute album then it always belongs to a particular genre even if artists featured on it are from different backgrounds.


Edited by Tuzvihar - March 30 2007 at 17:45
"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."

Charles Bukowski
Back to Top
Tuzvihar View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 18 2005
Location: C. Schinesghe
Status: Offline
Points: 13536
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 06:17
Anybody agree with me?
"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."

Charles Bukowski
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 06:18
Various genres should only be used for the Various artists sections, there should not be any bands under that classification.
 
The various artists sections needs to be so classified, as we do not (yet) assign genres by album.
Back to Top
Tuzvihar View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 18 2005
Location: C. Schinesghe
Status: Offline
Points: 13536
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 06:36
But look at the definition. It doesn't say anything about genres. An album featuring various artists belonging to the same genre would still be classified under various genres although it would belong to that particular genre.
And the case of tribute albums. An album which is a tribute to a particular band belongs to the genre that band belongs to. Even if artists featured on the album are from different backgrounds 'cos they play the music of the band they want to pay a tribute to.
Do you follow my drift? Confused
"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."

Charles Bukowski
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 06:44
But we can't classify by album, only by band. "Various artists" is effectively a band on this site.
Back to Top
Tuzvihar View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 18 2005
Location: C. Schinesghe
Status: Offline
Points: 13536
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 06:48
Yes, I understand. But the case is Various artists don't necessarily have to belong to Various genres. How about renaming that "subgenre" to Miscellaneous for instance?



EDIT: maybe Unclassified would be better?


Edited by Tuzvihar - March 31 2007 at 06:59
"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."

Charles Bukowski
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 07:07

Anyone else have a view on this?

Back to Top
Joolz View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 24 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 1377
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 07:16
Why isn't called 'Various Artists'? All the entries are Various Artists  ... Confused
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 07:21

It's intended to describe the style of music.

Back to Top
Rivertree View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions

Joined: March 22 2006
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 17627
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 14:44
The problem is that Various Genres is listed under the title PROG SUB-GENRES.
It isn't a sub genre! It's a special case.

Maybe this has been discussed before in another thread.
I would prefer to delete it from there because the title VARIOUS ARTISTS is already existing with links for the three relevant groups.


Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 17:10
If we delete it from there, it would be deleted all together. Unfortunately, that lsit is picked up automatically from the genres.
Back to Top
Rivertree View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions

Joined: March 22 2006
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 17627
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 17:36
Hmmh - i'm not really familiar with the database structure - but I think there must be a way to hide (not to delete anything) the link Various Genres (style=29) in the PROG SUB-GENRES title.

IMO nothing more is necessary ...


Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.180 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.