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I love Rick Wakeman's 70s albums but there's a high 'cheese' content. Sometimes I think he really should have had a think for a bit, as lyrics were simply not his strong point, imo. But there's lots of gorgeous music on the albums and some terrific melodies. 'Maker' from 'No Earthly Connection' is a bit Andrew Lloyd Webber lyrically, but the melody and Rick's keyboards are simply stunning.

I had a Magellan album, I think it was 'Impending Ascension' and I found it unbearably cheesy, I'm afraid. Pure bombast and no subtlety whatsoever, imo. Whether their other albums are like that I couldn't comment.

The only Dream Theater songs I find cheesy are their ballads. 'Octavarium' was full of them, and I don't go a bundle on 'Another Day' or 'Through Her Eyes', especially the awful Whitney Houston nonsense at the start of it. WHAT were they thinking?

Uriah Heep's 'Magician's Birthday' piles on the cheese. Now I love them and they are one of my fave bands, but I think that track was more excessive than progressive and was arguably a step too far- not a favourite of mine, doesn't have the sublime beauty of 'The Spell' or the sheer power of 'Pilgrim', their other epics bookending 'The Magician's Birthday'.
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Originally posted by Alpine Jones Alpine Jones wrote:

Greetings Progonites, What is the lamest song by a prog band that you are ashamed to like. Mine is Burning Bridges by ELP. It just makes me warm in the heart and makes me want to hug terrorists with WMDs. Damn Terrorists. Anyhow, what is your favorite Chessy Prog song,
    


I think I get the idea, but my English is leaving me here. What is the proper definition of "cheesy"?
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Hmm, well overdone might be another way to put it.
 
For me its Another Day by DT and Symphony X in general Embarrassed
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Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I love Rick Wakeman's 70s albums but there's a high 'cheese' content. Sometimes I think he really should have had a think for a bit, as lyrics were simply not his strong point, imo. But there's lots of gorgeous music on the albums and some terrific melodies. 'Maker' from 'No Earthly Connection' is a bit Andrew Lloyd Webber lyrically, but the melody and Rick's keyboards are simply stunning.

I had a Magellan album, I think it was 'Impending Ascension' and I found it unbearably cheesy, I'm afraid. Pure bombast and no subtlety whatsoever, imo. Whether their other albums are like that I couldn't comment.

The only Dream Theater songs I find cheesy are their ballads. 'Octavarium' was full of them, and I don't go a bundle on 'Another Day' or 'Through Her Eyes', especially the awful Whitney Houston nonsense at the start of it. WHAT were they thinking?

Uriah Heep's 'Magician's Birthday' piles on the cheese. Now I love them and they are one of my fave bands, but I think that track was more excessive than progressive and was arguably a step too far- not a favourite of mine, doesn't have the sublime beauty of 'The Spell' or the sheer power of 'Pilgrim', their other epics bookending 'The Magician's Birthday'.
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I think that with the beginning of "Through Her Eyes" they were trying to emulate DSOTM's Great Gig in the Sky.....there are actually quite a few Pink Floyd nods on that album


hmmmm.....cheese....


Symphony X- The Odyssey (song)....it's just so overbearingly cheesy but I love it (like all their work actually)

oh, and Cygnus X-1, the best cheesy Rush song ever Tongue


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Listen to Sacrificed Sons on Dream Theaters Octavarium -album and you'll know what cheesy means.
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^Yes, I'd say Octavarium was literally full of cheesy tracks- I Walk Beside You and These Walls anyone??? The only song I liked really was the title track. Now I would personally LOVE them if they were like that every time.

Symphony X define 'cheesy' to my ears. I rather like some of 'The Divine Wings Of Tragedy' but I have a bit of a bugbear with that 'power metal' sound- the operatic choruses etc. 'The Odyssey' had more of that than any prog, imho of course.
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Originally posted by Passionist Passionist wrote:

Listen to Sacrificed Sons on Dream Theaters Octavarium -album and you'll know what cheesy means.
 
What do you mean it´s cheesy? Explain please..
I think it´s one of their best songs ever.
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Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

Originally posted by Passionist Passionist wrote:

Listen to Sacrificed Sons on Dream Theaters Octavarium -album and you'll know what cheesy means.
 
What do you mean it´s cheesy? Explain please..
I think it´s one of their best songs ever.


Same here, it's a track that actually retains the DT sound (like the title track of the same album which is amazing, one of their best).....but DT do have their share of cheesy songs.....like Innocence Faded or Another Day (both which I enjoy)


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Genesis - Mad Man Moon (A Trick Of The Tail, 1975)

I like that song a lot. Thumbs Up
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Kansas - Magnum Opus
 
 
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Anything by Marillion or Ayreon
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Originally posted by Badabec Badabec wrote:

Genesis - Mad Man Moon (A Trick Of The Tail, 1975)

I like that song a lot.



You're right, it must be the most gorgeous Genesis melody ever. I've adored it from Day One, but I never really understood what it's about...
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Lines in the Sand by Dream Theater. One of the relatively few songs by
them I really like, because it isn't that cheesy. But as it is Dream
Theater, it can never become completely un-cheesy, so it qualifies.

    




Just my opinion. Don't be upset. I said I like the song by the way. Wink
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Walk Beside You: Dream Theater
Lazarus: Porcupine Tree
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Genesis - Harold the Barrel

Rush - Red Lenses

 
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Some RTF songs are really cheesy, but I enjoy the hell outta themSmile
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Rick Wakeman's 70s classics - cheesy !??! What could possibly be cheesy about blokes dressed up as King Arthur's knights skating round on ice??!!
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OK...Here goes...
 
Yes: Owner of a Lonely Heart & Most YesWest stuff ..I can also enjoy MOST of Open Your Eyes
Rush:  I have defended Presto & Roll the Bones here so I guess that says something....
Kansas: Play The Game Tonight, Fight Fire With Fire, and dare I say it..................Perfect Lover
I like both GTR and the 1st 2 Asia albums.....
Tull...Bungle In the Jungle....
Damn...I'm going to have a Heart Attack on all this cheese....


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ELP - For You and Pirates both pile on the cheese to Gorgonzola levels, but in an enjoyable way.
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Points: 1991 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 12:39
Just thought of another: Uriah Heep "Poet's Justice".. it's great but it has it's certain cheesy moments, specially in the part where the guys go "ah!"
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