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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2007 at 06:14
Originally posted by artguyken artguyken wrote:

An up and coming Post Soviet band to watch for ( a group of Russian speaking musicians ) is Fromuz!
http://fromuzband.com or you can listen and order their upcoming DVD/CD combo at:
http://www.10trecords.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=22

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Great jazz-rock.I heard you're to play on BAJA PROG? Congratulations! Magic fest, good company...

BTW, are you on Archives alreay? Did anyone want to submit you?
    
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2007 at 04:19
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

I see you guys have added Песьняров... Which are the best albums to start with(our Russian music store might have them)?Smile
"Gusliar" is their most progressive effort.
First 4 albums are very good but have not been released on CD till now. 2 compilations by "Melodiya" label contain many tracks from these albums.
My other personal favourite is the album "For The Whole of the War" (again, it has not been released on CD).
And there are many bizarre compilations mixing songs from different periods (and often varying in sound quality). Visit the Discography section of the site http://vma-pesnyary.com/discograph/discograph.php, it can help you to choose the right CD to start.
 
IMO the best are:
  
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2007 at 02:36
I see you guys have added Песьняров... Which are the best albums to start with(our Russian music store might have them)?Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2007 at 01:09
An up and coming Post Soviet band to watch for ( a group of Russian speaking musicians ) is Fromuz!
http://fromuzband.com or you can listen and order their upcoming DVD/CD combo at:
http://www.10trecords.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=22

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2007 at 21:29
Interesting stuff so far guys. I am curious about a few artists/bands:

Yevgeni Yevtushenko - a poet who did an album around 1980 called CONFESSION.

Zhurbin - Orpheus and Eurydice. This is supposedly a rock opera that was pretty successful in the USSR. My question would be how PROG is it?

Alexander Gradsky - poet who did some synthesizer albums said to be prog. I heard "La Vie Immediate" from mid-80s and it was not so great, but maybe the stuff from the 70s / early 80s are of more interest?

Giedrius Kuprevicius - Lithuanian who did two "important" rock operas in the 70s, but again, are they interesting to a prog fan?

Voskresenie - obscure "guitar psych" from early 80s... any good?

As for me, I will mention Samkha and Epos, two fairly good bands from the late 80s / early 90s on CD from Boheme.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2007 at 06:49
LOST WORLD - the fragment of working process(taken from the official web-site)


Soloviev and his flute came to visit Didorenko, who was deeply and securely submerged in the recording of a new composition. Upon seeing his friend, Didorenko happily pressed a microphone against his throat and said: ”Play this: E-D-D-E”. Soloviev, unabashed, took out the flute, a piece of staffed paper, a pencil, settled comfortably on the sofa and got ready to write.

D. (indignantly) There’s nothing to write! Just play E-D-D-E.

S. Wait-wait-wait, what do you mean E-D-D-E? I can’t just up and play E-D-D-E.

D. You can, too. Otherwise why did you graduate the conservatory?

S. And post-graduated as well.

D. Anyway, you should play here, first E-D-D-E, then G-F-F-G, then higher and more notes. Each time, higher and more notes, get it?

S. What notes?

D. Just notes, any notes.

S. You sure?

D. Absolutely.

S. Here you go, then!

Didorenko, rubbing hands, leaps to the computer and hits “record”. Soloviev plays a few notes and stops, pensive.

D. Great!

S. I doubt it.

D. Sounds cool!

S. Rubbish.

D. What the doctor ordered!

S. Totally sucks.

Pause.

S. Well, is it on?

D. What for? We’ve already done it.

S. (in disbelief) Really? No, c’mon, wait, I’ll play one more time.

D. No-no-no.

S. Are you drunk?

D. I’m telling you, it’s all fine.

S. (yells) Let me play again, you are idiot, flute is out of tune, notes all wrong!

D. (doubtfully) Sounds OK as it is to me. All right, an extra take, just in case.

Recording on. Soloviev plays. Stops.

S. (satisfied) Now we’re talking!

D. (unconvinced) Yeah?

S. (confident) Of course!

D. I dunno, I think it was better the other time.

S. That other time, I played total rubbish. Now, at least it makes sense.

D. None whatsoever. Do it again.

S. I don’t know what’s not to like… OK.

Recording on. Soloviev is not playing.

D. Well?

S. So what do I play?

D. (exasperated) No idea. It’s all done already.

S. Yeah, I think so. Second take is awesome.

D. First take is perfect.

Akimov. (comes back from the kitchen, chewing) That’s it, then! We’ll take take one part one, and take two part two. And we’ll start mixing.

S. Thank God. Just make the flute really quiet, so it can’t be heard. It really sucks.

D. Flute’s great! But do make sure one can hear the guitar and bass. And the violin. And the keyboard, too.

A. Don’t worry guys! (Turns on drums, top volume). So how’s balance?

S. Super. A little less flute, though.

A. What flute? There isn’t any flute.

S. Aha. I guess all’s cool then.

A. Let’s even out those drums first. (Puts on headphones, becomes immersed in sound of bass drum).

D & S sit in silence for a while, then exchange meaningful glances, get up, and tiptoe to the kitchen to boil water for dumplings.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2007 at 18:39
check the Downloads sticky topic - I post there few legal links on the most recommended Russian bands which are not here yet
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 15:05
BTW, Russian speakers, check LOST WORLD's site and read about their new album!These guys provided the best sense of humor I ever known in Prog!!! so sophisticated and so funny comments!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 14:57
^ thanks Dick.There's also another band worth checking from Boheme music - LOST WORLD
Check it up!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 07:21
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Dick,never heard these two,but going to

Now listening to BOSCH;S WITH YOU - Russian Post-rock outfit.They have some tracks free-to-download from their site.Check them, guys!!! It's like GYBE meets Mogwai!!!


The few Russian and other old USSR bands I have in my collection,  appear to be released on CD by the Music Boheme Records label based in Moscow. So their catalogue seems to be one worth checking out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 06:36
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I want to find SERGEY KURYOHIN's stuff - he used to be an AQUARIUM and KINO guest keyboardist,but he's more known as Russian chamber/RIO/experimenta; composer (died in 1995 from a heart attack ).I heard his music in one movie, and it's simply AMAZING. 
 
If you don't ask - you don't get. I have 6 albums by Kuryokhin. Find them very interesting, but a bit repetitive. "The Rich's Opera" and "Sparrow Oratorium" are his best IMO. Also have his soudtracks for Mister Designer, Two Captains-2 plus his "Tragedy in Rock" and "Popular Science" with Henry Kaiser. He was highly acclaimed in the west, but went practically unnoticed in his own country, which is famous for ignoring it's own talents.
I also heard Kuryokhin's work with BG, but disliked it.
Anyway - highly recommended artist!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 03:06
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I have Stalker and Solaris by Tarkovsky with Artemiev;s music.That's not enough

 
Straight out of memory -- "Sibiriada" (Konchalovsky), "Urga" (Mikhalkov), "Okhota na lis" (Abdrash*tov). At least first two are highly recommended also as films. The music, of course, by Artemiev. There are plenty of other movies with his music also.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 02:16
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The movie with Kuryokhin's music is "Gospodin Oformitel'", isn't it?

 

It's easier to find the films with his and Artemiev's music, maybe...

    
oh yes,it was Gospodin! a Russian answer to Lynch!
I have Stalker and Solaris by Tarkovsky with Artemiev;s music.That's not enough

Now listening to DISEN GAGE...great!!!Bloody great! I must prepare a review!I should have been on adding them...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 01:29
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.I heard his music in one movie, and it's simply AMAZING.

Same goes to Artemiev.Still no luck .I'm hoping to download some legal stuff later 
    
 
The movie with Kuryokhin's music is "Gospodin Oformitel'", isn't it?
 
It's easier to find the films with his and Artemiev's music, maybe...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 01:15
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:


BTW. "several" albums -- it should be 5 or 6, if I remember rightly. I still have something on cassettes, but I don't listen to it already.


I have all AQUARIUM in mp3 except BG's solo works and most of experimental/AQUARIUM-related stuff.I want to find SERGEY KURYOHIN's stuff - he used to be an AQUARIUM and KINO guest keyboardist,but he's more known as Russian chamber/RIO/experimenta; composer (died in 1995 from a heart attack ).I heard his music in one movie, and it's simply AMAZING.

Same goes to Artemiev.Still no luck .I'm hoping to download some legal stuff later



Ansen,have you downloaded DISEN GAGE's early songs from 1999?(united into one track lasting 7:54).Funny stuff!!!
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2007 at 18:20
Yes, indeed. Pay attention that I haven't said a single word against his intelligence nor about the quality of his verses. It was all about the feelings.
 
BTW. "several" albums -- it should be 5 or 6, if I remember rightly. I still have something on cassettes, but I don't listen to it already.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2007 at 18:15
Well then it's just not your cup o' tea. Opinion respectedWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2007 at 18:13
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

You don't need to understand them - you need to feel them. You also have to be very educated to get all the associations - BG is one of the most brilliant and intelligent people I've heard of and he pulls associations from literature, mythology, history, etc. so you need to know some of that stuff to understand. I don;t always get his associations but the poetry itself is simply beautiful and full of emotion.
 
You get the point -- the problem is not in understanding. I haven't said I don't understand him. I just don't like anything he wrote regardless of understanding or misunderstanding. The problem is in feelings. The way he represents his thoughts is just unbearable for me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2007 at 18:06
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

 I always considered Aquarium to be in the same row as Kino, DDT, Nautilus Pompilius, or Mashina Vremeni, i.e., lyrics-oriented. And (sorry, sorry, sorry everybody who loves Aquarium), I just can't stand them. Well, not them. Him. Because of his manner of singing and, mostly, because of his lyrics. Unhappy


Ouch  -- It wasn't against you, it was against him...

I don't care at all for Kino, DDT or Nautilus, Mashina Vremeni, etc. but Aquarium are one of my favorite bands.  -- I know.  BG is a genius composer!  -- I don't think so.  maybe you haven't heard enough? -- Several full albums aren't enough?

He's my favorite lyricist ever too, but that's another story. -- But, as I said, the lyrics are the main point why I can't stand him, not the melodies.


I guess his music is just not your cup of tea. Several maybe enough(depends on how much several is - I have 17 Aquarium CD's and it still feels incomplete). Some eras are more musical, others are more lyrical, plenty of genres and influences they experimented with.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2007 at 18:04
You don't need to understand them - you need to feel them. You also have to be very educated to get all the associations - BG is one of the most brilliant and intelligent people I've heard of and he pulls associations from literature, mythology, history, etc. so you need to know some of that stuff to understand. I don;t always get his associations but the poetry itself is simply beautiful and full of emotion.
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