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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 04:56
I started this thread, but am having a huge amount of difficulty bringing it down to just 5!

Here's one for you anyway - Children in supermarkets!

They bimble around, getting under your feet, screaming their heads off, weeing (yes, I've seen this!!) - and what do the supermarkets do?

Pander to them!!

Trolleys with toy cars bolted to the front, in order that the little kiddies can ride around!!

Worse than that, mini-trolleys they can push around (always into the backs of your legs, of course), with bl++dy great flags on top, supposedly so you can see them, but really to get you in they eye as they go past!!

Sweets always near the checkout, just to make sure they have something else to scream about when they have a totally captive audience!!

It is my humble opinion that supermarkets should have one child-free night per week when intolerant, old, grumpy non parents, such as myself can shop child free; either that, or issue us with cattle prods!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 02:59

Here's another:

Food vending machines.

You know the type I mean - the ones with a kind of spiral thing holding the food.

Just about every one of these I've ever used always says "Use exact change only" - how often do you have the exact change? I always find I want something that costs 35p, then look in my wallet to discover I only have a Ģ1 coin - or worse, a Ģ2 coin.

So you think, "what the hell" - after all, you're hungry and just want food. The annoyance of paying over the odds for it is minor compared to the growling coming from the pit of your stomach.

So you insert the Ģ1 coin and make the selection.

The spirally thing holding the food rotates precisely 1 quarter of a turn, and the food remains on the shelf.

The machine retains all of your money - and you're still hungry - but now you have no change!

So you try to find someone who can assist - but there's no-one within a 50-mile radius who can.

So you try to ring the number on the front of the machine and, if you actually get through the complicated menu system and don't get forced to listen to "My Heart Will Go On" for an hour on the call waiting system (don't get me started on call waiting systems...), you get told that an engineer can attend a week next Tuesday... maybe.

So you give the machine a sharp rap. Then another. Then you kick the damn t'ing a couple of times, grab both sides and shake it a bit, then stand in the dispenser tray, grab the back of the machine and rock it violently before the security or police take you away...

To cap it all, you missed your train.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 08:34
I can't imagine how you'd fare with the pizza vending machines in Tokyo...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 15:20
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

3 - People who think England, Britain and UK are interchangeable references to the same place.

hmm- please explain? One of these things has to be like the other.

James,

Great Britain is made up of England, Scotland and Wales.

The United Kingdom (Full name "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland") is England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

England has land borders with Wales and Scotland. It is governed by the UK government, it does not have its own parliament. The Queen is not the "Queen of England", she is the "Queen of the United Kingdom". I think one of the main contributors to the confusion is that UK bank notes are issued by (and say on them) The Bank of England, which is actually the reserve bank for the UK.

All this of course not to be confused of course with the British Isles, which is a geographic (as opposed to political) reference to the islands which include mainland Great Britain, the Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey etc.!

I know it's confusing, but it really does annoy Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish people when others talk about England but mean the UK.Cry  I believe Canadians have a similar avertion to being called American?Wink

Please don't assume that we English are any less annoyed by this. What makes you think we're any more happy to be confused with you than you are to be confused with us? You bring up a very important point. England is the only country in the UK not to have it's own parliment. Scottish schools and education, for example, come entirely under the control of the Scottish parliament. No Englishman has a thing to say on any education policy north of the border, yet the budget cut or increase for some small primary school in Slough hang on the say-so of the MP for Kilmarnock. How fair is that? To be fair, some Scots in the UK parliament choose to abstain from voting on such issues, but the embarassing fact remains, politically, the English are the underdogs in the UK today.

Surely Scottish money is issued by the bank of Scotland?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 15:47

Emdiar,

Agree entirely (well mostly, I'm not sure about the underdogs bitWink), I was in no way having a pop at our neighbours in the south, England is a great country. It does get annoying though when the BBC talk about "The national stadium" meaning Wembley, and th National team meaning "England". They too often forget what the first B in BBC stands for!

The voting in Parliament you mention is known as the "West Lothian question". I reckon you'll soon find that Scottish MPs are excluded from voting on matters which affect only England.

The Bank of Scotland is not the equivalent of the Bank of England. The BofE is the reserve bank for the UK, and should be call the Bank of the United Kingdom. The Bank of Scotland is a commerical bank like Barclays or Nat West. In fact it recently merged with the Halifax Building society to form HBOS.

Three Scottish banks, Bank of Scotland, Royal bank of Scotland, and Clydesdale Bank are licenced to issue their own bank notes. These are not legal tender, even in Scotland. For every five pound note they issue, they must have a Bank of England one in their vaults.

Vive la difference!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 15:55

1. People who say "London, England" or "Paris, France". Everybody knows where London and Paris are. An American once asked me where I come from, and as Birmingham was the closest well known city, I lied and said that.

"You  mean Birmingham, England", she insisted. The thing is, Birmingham, England, the 2nd largest city in Great Britain, being originally a sixth century Saxon settlement, and featured in the Doomsday book, 1086, (Bermingeham), has earned the right to be known by its name, without further qualification. Let Birmingham, Alabama include an address in its moniker, and Paris, Texas.

I don't want to offend anyone, it just irritates the hell out of me.

TO BE CONTINUED.........

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 16:02
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Three Scottish banks, Bank of Scotland, Royal bank of Scotland, and Clydesdale Bank are licenced to issue their own bank notes. These are not legal tender, even in Scotland. For every five pound note they issue, they must have a Bank of England one in their vaults.

Very interesting! This has solved a question I have often pondered over! Thanks.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 17:44

Just to be annoyingly literal, anyone in the Western Hemisphere can be called American- between North America, South America and Latin America, it's pretty well sewn up. Any Canadians who dislike being called American, please tell me what continent you're on

I gotta say, emdiar, a little Birmingham clarification might still be called for- our little Alabama town unfortunately made it into the public consciousness starting September 15th, 1963. The UK city was definitely there first, but most Americans (especially African-Americans) will think of church bombings and MLK long before the Saxon connection.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 04:21
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

1. the word "proactive"-  the linguistic equivalent of the Macarena- i.e., it only really started to bother me around the 800th time I heard it...a favorite of middle-managers everywhere

2. Pickups and 4WDs that are mainly driven as commuter cars...you're using way too much petroleum and road space. If you really do a lot of hauling and offroading, fine, but how many Navigators and Escalades do you really see in the wilderness?

3. Avocado and avocado-based foods...like guacamole...the same shade of green as toxic waste, and just about as tasty

My God, on these three things we are of one mind completely. It's uncanny!! I WILL NOT allow anyone to get away with saying "proactive" without demending that they explain the difference between that, and plain old fashioned "active". It's redundant, and used by the type of people who like "drawing" inverted commas in the air as they speak.

And those Moms doing the school run in a 4x4. When I was boy I walked the three miles between home and school. there and back, and as a result am not an obese adult.

Avacado dip is a by-product of lyposuction! 

 



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......TO CONTINUE,

2. Baseball caps!! This vile ubiquitous article of youth fashion headwear has no place in GB, where no one plays the game, (the closest thing we have is "rounders", a game played exclusively by school girls!). Every street corner in Britain is populated with teenaged boys all sporting caps bearing the names of various baseball teams of which they have never heard. Last week I asked my nephew how many baseball stars he could name. Answer: None, though he admitted to having heard the name Babe Ruth somewhere, perhaps in a film? he wasn't sure! Didn't stop him walking around like Donald Duck all day though!

....TO BE CONTINUED.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 06:28
When visiting dear ol Edinburgh, I went into a Bank Of Scotland office and no problem, got my money and everything, but was taken aback by the question" are you travelling south ???? If so, you need English Pounds" and this is the year 2004 ?????????? 

Free Scotland !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 06:42

...I could do without the word "dis" or "dissing"...it's cropping up more and more, and not just by typical underage rap-speakers. I think I heard it twice today, without any conscious irony, on national press coverage of a court trial! It's just a damn prefix! Put a word after it, find a reasonable synonym, or SHUT UP!

[pauses to gnaw through his own face off in frustration] 

...and don't even get me started with "bling-bling". Is the human race going to be talking more and more like toddlers for the rest of my life? The living will envy the deaf...

...or am i just an old-fashioned stick-in-the-mud?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 06:44
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 06:44
The world is insane  well the people are  never met a tree or a cat that made me angry, but alot of 2 legged apes 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 07:50
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

...I could do without the word "dis" or "dissing"...it's cropping up more and more, and not just by typical underage rap-speakers. I think I heard it twice today, without any conscious irony, on national press coverage of a court trial! It's just a damn prefix! Put a word after it, find a reasonable synonym, or SHUT UP!

...and don't even get me started with "bling-bling". Is the human race going to be talking more and more like toddlers for the rest of my life? The living will envy the deaf...

...or am i just an old-fashioned stick-in-the-mud?

I don't like the double-barrelled version, but the single "bling" on it's own resounds quite well with me. My little daughter (10 months old) recently acquired a magpie's lust for all things "bling", and really, there's no other word that is sufficient.

Business phrases wind me up, though - like "pro-active" (UGH!!!), I also hate "going forwards", "market penetration", "leverage" (as a verb), "the channel" and worst of all "webinar". I will not go to a "webinar", as there is no such thing.

Also to do with languages, I hate hearing other English people in countries where English is not widely spoken;

I went to France recently, and actually heard English people speaking English more loudly or more s-l-o-w-l-y in a vain attempt to get themselves understood by French people who stood there blankly not understanding (or having fun pretending they couldn't understand!).

My French is basic, at best, but I made the effort to speak the language (like French people do when they come to England) and found that French people were more than willing to take the time to gesticulate or even draw maps in order to assist, on the rare occasions that communication became an issue, as most had a basic command of English but were as nervous about using it as I was about using my command of their language. I think I used a total of 6 phrases (apart from those I read from menus!), including "Bonjour", "Une bier s'il vous plait", "Merci" and "Au Revoir". Surely those aren't beyond the average English person???

Another rant bites the dust!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 09:49

On the language front, though I don't want to waste one of my 5 goes on it, the flagrant splitting of infinitives, such as "To boldly go where no man...etc." It's just plain clumsy and wrong.

Sentences like the completely  illogical "I don't got none!" in place of "I don't have any", or "I haven't got any", or simply "I have none." all three of which suffice.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 09:52

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:


Free Scotland !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From what exactly?

(edit: Scottish money IS legal tender in England.)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 10:01
From the domination of England  Scotland is a country of itīs own 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 10:03
And free the Netherlands from Dykes

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2004 at 10:13

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

From the domination of England  Scotland is a country of itīs own 

You are so missinformed Velvet, as to be laughable. You're just another one who's seen the (wildly historically inaccurate and Hollywoodized) film "Brave Heart" and think you know all about it.

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