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threefates
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 09:53 |
In support of Pete Sinfield...
One of the reasons I love the lyrics of Pete Sinfield is that he put secret messages in his words. Unlike Roger Waters who put secret messages in the songs by recording things backwords.. or playing them lightly over the song recording.. Pete would actually write them into the lyrics. They were sort of like puzzles that you had to figure out.
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Still I wonder how it is to be a stream, From a dark well constant flowing, Winding seawards over ancient mossy wheels Yet feel no need of knowing? Still I wonder how it is to be a tree, Circled servant to the seasons, Only drink on sky and rake the winter wind And need no seal of reasons?
Still I wonder why I wonder why I'm here All my words just the shaft of my flail As I race o'er this beautiful sphere Like a dog who his chasing his . . . Tailors and tinkers, princes and Incas, Sailors and sinkers, before me and like me . . .
Still I wonder how it is to be a bird, Singing each dawns sweet effusions; Flying far away when all the world has stirred Yet seek no vain conclusions . . . . . .
Still I wonder if I passed some time ago As a bird, or a stream, or a tree? To mount up high you first must sink down low Like the changeable tides of the Caesars and Pharoahs, prophets and heroes, Poets and hobos, before me and after me all the Painters and dancers, mountainside chancers, Merchants and gamblers, bankers and ramblers, Winners and losers, angels and boozers, Beatles and Bolans, raindrops and oceans, Kings, pawns and deacons, fainthearts and beacons, Caesars and Pharoahs . . . . . .
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 11:08 |
Useful_Idiot wrote:
...how has Greg Lake gotten two votes? |
IT IS BEYOND ME
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 11:10 |
Why hasn`t mariah got any votes?
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 11:38 |
has she actually written any of her songs? that would bump up my esteem for her...upgrade it from nil to nada
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 11:57 |
None of them...where's Eric Woolfson?  He wrote incredible words for the Alan Parson Project, notably in "Tales of mistery and imagination" & "The turn of a friendly card"
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 12:31 |
threefates wrote:
In support of Pete Sinfield...
One of the reasons I love the lyrics of Pete Sinfield is that he put secret messages in his words. Unlike Roger Waters who put secret messages in the songs by recording things backwords.. or playing them lightly over the song recording.. Pete would actually write them into the lyrics. They were sort of like puzzles that you had to figure out.
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About the Roger Waters messages, Please! Tell me more! what album, what song, what the messages said...
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threefates
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 13:28 |
from Brain Damage on DSOTM... at the end turn it up loud and you hear:
"I can't think of anything to say except... I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!"
This is a hidden message in the song "Empty Spaces" from "The Wall" but the record has to be played backward. In it, Roger Waters says: "Congratulations, You have just discovered the secret message. Please send your answer to old pink, care of the funny farm, Chalfont...(interruption) Roger, Carolyn's on the phone! (Roger) Okay!".
On Amused to Death, Roger Waters says: "Julia, (pause) however, (pause) in the light and visions of Stanley, (pause) we've changed our minds. (pause) We have decided to include a backward message, (pause) Stanley, (pause) for you, (pause) and for all the other book partners".
Just a few that I know of...
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Glass-Prison
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 13:54 |
Well, I know there's a message at the end of DSOTM, but I thought it said:
"There really is no dark side of the moon. In fact it's all dark!"
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richardh
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 16:04 |
Peter Gabriel puts images in my head like no other writer.Amazing lyricist.The last verse of 'Solsbury Hill' is mind bogglingly good! (and the Genesis stuff isn't bad either!)
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Posted: August 13 2004 at 02:19 |
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Roger Waters I found Frank Zappa's lyrics amusing more than anything else, but to be honest I'm no expert on Zappa. I love his guitar playing. I would be surprised if there were many guitarists more skilled and versatile then he was.
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threefates
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Posted: August 13 2004 at 10:45 |
Actually I also loved David Cousins as a lyricist. I think my favorite by him tho, is probably his most underrated song: Grace Darling
You have been my lighthouse In every storm You have given shelter You have kept me safe and warm And in my darkest nights You have shone your brightest lights You are my saving grace Darling I love you.
You have been the pilot Who guides me home You have been the my rock As on the seven seas I roam And when I was becalmed You were the strength in my arms You are my saving grace Darling I love you.
And when I found my back Was torn and broken on the reef You sailed your tiny boat Across the dark seas of my disbelief.
You have been the anchor And I the chain Straining as we hold ourselves Together in the rain I have found you ever there My constant keeper's daughter fair You are my saving grace Darling I love you.
I also loved his "Hanging in the Gallery"
Is it the painter or the picture Hanging in the gallery? Admired by countless thousands Who attempt to read the secrets Of his vision of his very soul. Is it the painter or the picture Hanging in the gallery? Or is it but a still life Of his own interpretation Of the way that God had made us In the image of His eye?
Is it the sculptor or the sculpture Hanging in the gallery? Touched by fleeting strangers Who desire to feel the strength of hands That realised a form of life. Is it the sculptor or the sculpture Hanging in the gallery? Or is it but the tenderness With which his hands were guided To discard the unessentials And reveal the perfect truth?
Is it the actor or the drama Playing to the gallery? Heard in every corner Of the theatre of cruelty That masks the humour in his speech. Is it the actor or the drama Playing to the gallery? Or is it but the character Of any single member of the audience That forms the plot Of each and every play?
Is it the singer or his likeness Hanging in the gallery? Tongue black, still and swollen, His eyes staring from their sockets, He is silent now, will sing no more. Is it the singer or his likeness Hanging in the gallery? Or is it but his conscience, Insecurity, and loneliness, When destiny becomes at last The cause of his demise?
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Posted: August 13 2004 at 15:41 |
okay peter hammill should so be on the list. Jon Anderson is the master, it must be said that he is a genius , if you understand his lyrics or not surely you can see how skillfully crafted and weaved they are. Beatiful and elegant. A work of art .
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 24 2004 at 10:58 |
James Lee wrote:
has she actually written any of her songs? that would bump up my esteem for her...upgrade it from nil to nada |
She writes and produces all her songs but get`s help withe music. I know it`s pretty embarassing to actually know this.
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Posted: August 24 2004 at 13:03 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
James Lee wrote:
has she actually written any of her songs? that would bump up my esteem for her...upgrade it from nil to nada
| She writes and produces all her songs but get`s help withe music. I know it`s pretty embarassing to actually know this. |
"As your body grows bigger Your mind will flower It's great to learn 'Cause knowledge is power!"
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Posted: August 24 2004 at 17:08 |
Ian Anderson and Peter Hammill both appear to be absent from that list, but they'd both get my vote...
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Posted: August 24 2004 at 18:49 |
[QUOTE=threefates]
Actually I also loved David Cousins as a lyricist. I think my favorite by him tho, is probably his most underrated song: Grace Darling
You have been my lighthouse In every storm You have given shelter You have kept me safe and warm And in my darkest nights You have shone your brightest lights You are my saving grace Darling I love you.
You have been the pilot Who guides me home You have been the my rock As on the seven seas I roam And when I was becalmed You were the strength in my arms You are my saving grace Darling I love you.
And when I found my back Was torn and broken on the reef You sailed your tiny boat Across the dark seas of my disbelief.
You have been the anchor And I the chain Straining as we hold ourselves Together in the rain I have found you ever there My constant keeper's daughter fair You are my saving grace Darling I love you.
Are you Alan partridge by any chance?
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gdub411
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Posted: August 24 2004 at 19:49 |
I voted for Fish but this list is very limited. I agree with others and ask: WHERE IS PETER HAMMILL!!!
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Posted: August 24 2004 at 20:12 |
gdub411 wrote:
I voted for Fish but this list is very limited. I agree with others and ask: WHERE IS PETER HAMMILL!!! |
he's currently touring in Spain
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threefates
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Posted: August 25 2004 at 00:50 |
Reed Lover wrote:
[QUOTE=threefates]
Actually I also loved David Cousins as a lyricist. I think my favorite by him tho, is probably his most underrated song: Grace Darling
You have been my lighthouse In every storm You have given shelter You have kept me safe and warm And in my darkest nights You have shone your brightest lights You are my saving grace Darling I love you.
You have been the pilot Who guides me home You have been the my rock As on the seven seas I roam And when I was becalmed You were the strength in my arms You are my saving grace Darling I love you.
And when I found my back Was torn and broken on the reef You sailed your tiny boat Across the dark seas of my disbelief.
You have been the anchor And I the chain Straining as we hold ourselves Together in the rain I have found you ever there My constant keeper's daughter fair You are my saving grace Darling I love you.
Are you Alan partridge by any chance?
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Not the last time I looked... I think my boobs are much bigger than his..
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Posted: August 25 2004 at 04:39 |
threefates wrote:
Not the last time I looked... I think my boobs are much bigger than his..
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If I asked you for evidence, would you hold it against me...?

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