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The T 
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 Topic: Ok, I give up, but THE DOORS....
Posted: November 22 2006 at 21:43 |
Ok, I'll never get Amorphis in this website.... Even though I'm firmly convinced they have prog elements and more of them that a lot of already included bands... OK, I give up, maybe when Green Day is included (the way things are going)....
But I just can't take this injustice: we have Santana, maybe prog, past discussion... we don't have Hendrix, who revolutionized everything...Ok, I shut up.... We have Led Zeppelin, who maybe somehow deserve to be here.... Ok.... somebody asks BOWIE over here, but let's stop the injustice: if there's one rock-pop-blues-psychedelia-jazz band that HAS to be included is THE DOORS... with Amorphis I have the problem of they being unknown, lack of support, but with The Doors, please, I don't think I'm saying anything new by the way... Listen to The End, to The Soft Parade, When the Music's Over....
If PA includes Bowie and not The Doors... well, I'll ask for the inclusion of Beyonce as prog-related... she broke boundaries!
Please, Morrison Manzarek Krieger and Densmore cannot not be here...
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Sean Trane
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 03:18 |
Most likely The Doors are coming up soon. I think we should let Erik Neuteboom get the chance to include them in proto-prog since he has championed their inclusion for roughly 2 years now.
Go for it Erik!!
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 04:52 |
If I have time I will make a biography about The Doors, I have more than 10 books and even written an article about Jim Morrison so this will be a comprehensive one. But at this moment I am busy with The Gift, Yesterdays and Also Eden to gather information and making a biography so this is my priority.
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Ricochet
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 06:32 |
Of course the Doors are coming next... 
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PROGMAN
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 10:11 |
don't worry Rico, I'm sure they will be added eventually 
Anyways I think they should be here as Proto-Prog (well probably  ).
Edited by PROGMAN - November 23 2006 at 10:15
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Ricochet
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 10:31 |
 PROGMAN wrote:
Anyways I think they should be here as Proto-Prog (well probably ). |
no doh, I once believe the Doors are from the 30s. 
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 14:48 |
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The Doors - Bluesy pyschadelia
Bowie - Glam rock
Instead of so many people concentrating on adding bands that have extremely thin ties to progressive rock,why not concentrate on finding and adding some genuine progressive bands to the archives?
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Arrrghus
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 14:52 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
The Doors - Bluesy pyschadelia
Bowie - Glam rock
Instead of so many people concentrating on adding bands that have extremely thin ties to progressive rock,why not concentrate on finding and adding some genuine progressive bands to the archives?
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Bowie? Glam rock? You are VERY misinformed, Jody. He had a glam rock period, yes, but he also had an art rock period and a dance music period and a folk period.
You're thinking of Bowie circa Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane.
Much of Bowie's stuff is prog (Low, Heroes, Scary Monsters, Station to Station).
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The Wizard
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 14:55 |
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I like both artist a whole lot. They both made interesting and artistic music that has been highly influential to many genres of music, prog included. I could care less if they get added or not, it's all cool to me.
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Bj-1
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 14:55 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Instead of so many people concentrating on adding bands that have extremely thin ties to progressive rock,why not concentrate on finding and adding some genuine progressive bands to the archives?
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Couldn't agree more 
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 23 2006 at 21:53 |
Arrrghus wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
The Doors - Bluesy pyschadelia
Bowie - Glam rock
Instead of so many people concentrating on adding bands that have extremely thin ties to progressive rock,why not concentrate on finding and adding some genuine progressive bands to the archives?
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Bowie? Glam rock? You are VERY misinformed, Jody. He had a glam rock period, yes, but he also had an art rock period and a dance music period and a folk period.
You're thinking of Bowie circa Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane.
Much of Bowie's stuff is prog (Low, Heroes, Scary Monsters, Station to Station).
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That's true,I posted in a hurry.I know Bowie has had a long and varied career,and I have always loved his music.My mistake.
Edited by TheProgtologist - November 23 2006 at 21:53
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memowakeman
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Posted: November 24 2006 at 00:44 |
It would be nice to see The Doors here... i would reivew all their albums for sure 
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: November 24 2006 at 00:51 |
memowakeman wrote:
It would be nice to see The Doors here... i would reivew all their albums for sure |
The same for me too. I'm curious anyway to see what people think of The Soft Parade. I presume many would underestimate it due to the pop influence. BTW, I always thought that the brass section is amazing in songs as Touch Me and Tell All The People. The album has other excellent and classic tracks as Easy Ride, Wild Child and the Soft Parade itself!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: November 24 2006 at 04:41 |
Arrrghus wrote:
Bowie? Glam rock? You are VERY misinformed, Jody. He had a glam rock period, yes, but he also had an art rock period and a dance music period and a folk period.
You're thinking of Bowie circa Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane.
Much of Bowie's stuff is prog (Low, Heroes, Scary Monsters, Station to Station).
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I don't consider the Berlin trilogy (including Badger , which you forgot) as prog. Working with Fripp and Eno does not make you any proggier.
I would call Bowie's works Glam-punkish rock until Station To Station >> Musically, the Berlin trilogy is too close to Lou Reed and New York Dolls stuff >> not exactly those artists per se but that type of "decadent" crowd.
His more art rock material starts from the late 80's (at least after the horrendous Let's Dance) until now
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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yarstruly
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Posted: November 24 2006 at 11:08 |
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I agree that they would fit here! Open the Doors!
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 24 2006 at 13:33 |
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The Doors were an unique blend of rock, blues, jazz, classic, psychedelia and even some flamenco (Spanish Caravan), it sounds very eclectic and adventurous. I hope I will have soon time to make the The Doors biography (I have to translate and edit a Jim Morrison article I wrote for a Dutch rock magazine). Perhaps next week, any other progheads who are eager to write a biography?
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darkshade
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 02:49 |
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when's Elvis being added here???
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1800iareyay
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 09:22 |
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The Doors deserve a place in Psychedelic/Space Rock. After all, they are the first band to be considered psychedelic (The Byrds are credited with its invetion with some of the songs, but they never switched from their folk rock). In addition, "The End" is one of, if not the first, rock songs to exceed ten minutes in length. That songs is full of time changes and varying themes, so its prog by my standards. Loook, if Maiden can make PA despite one album of quasi prog, then the Doors who are the first traceable root of prog deserve a place.
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philippe
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Posted: January 01 2007 at 15:06 |
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Since when the Doors influenced Psychedelic space rock and progressive rock in general? Some of you guys are really blinded by big f**king names.
the roots of space rock are far from that sh*t!
Edited by philippe - January 01 2007 at 15:07
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 01 2007 at 15:09 |
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I actually agree with Philippe!
Edited by Snow Dog - January 01 2007 at 15:09
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