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memowakeman 
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 Posted: October 19 2006 at 23:12 |
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So Einsturzende Neubauten is Industrial Rock then?
I have listened to some of their songs and i found it pretty weird but i liked them, anyway i really dont know them, anyone recommends an album in special?
Yuko, Adam, Assaf, Faaip?
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Posted: October 19 2006 at 23:40 |
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Einsturzende Neubauten.. I havn't heard to much from them
But i hear that they're early stuff is the Weirdest, Scariest stuff they've done. And thew newer it gets.. the more Normal is becomes.. "Zeichnungen Des Patienten O.T." and "Halber Mensch" Thoses are recomended creepy industiral albums by them ... that's all i know -.- Edited by Faaip_De_Oiad - October 19 2006 at 23:41 |
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Pnoom!
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 00:31 |
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Is there a place to find translations of Magma's lyrics??
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 01:49 |
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http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8366/MAGMA-KOBAIAN-dictionary.html
That's a good Kobaian site. |
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 01:49 |
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But i havn't found a real already translated lyric site.
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Apsalar
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:03 |
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All these suggestions are great. I only have two more which I wish to add.
Abus Dangereux - Nice throbbing bass, quite towards the Jazzy side of things, but resonably easy listening experience. Unforunately if you don't like the vocal side of Zeuhl you might get a little turn off at this aspect.
Happy Family Along with the other Japanese band mentioned (Bondage Fruit and Ruins) I think this band is a great introduction for the people would like a little more edge to their guitar work.
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Apsalar
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:08 |
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I would interested to hear peoples thoughts on this. I think Faaip might be right with his words, the earlier the better. Unforunately Industrial is not one of my strong points (unless we are discussion Zoviet France). Stranglely enough I was introduced to the genre via the Goth side of things (talking early '80s here). But definately something I am interested in getting to know a little better over time. If my tidings prove well might head down to the shops tomorrow and see what I can snap up.
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:18 |
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Pataphonie 'Le Matin Blanc'
Univers Zero 'Ceux du Dehors'
Vortex 'Cycles de Thanatos' (these three have a similar vibe to Eros)
The Boredoms 'Super ae' (expect the usual post-modernist insanity)
Koenji Hyakkei 'Angherr Shisspa' (...if you like operatic vocals)
Bondage Fruit 'IV' and 'VI' (instrumental and unbelievable virtuosity)
and as BV has already recommended (and I guarantee this Japanese band will appeal to you)
HAPPY FAMILY:S/T
Not quite so close but as with the Cul De Sac review earlier on (just check it out to see where I'm coming from) this is an instrumental CD put out by a Japanese quartet of electric bass, electric guitar synths/kybds and drums. Believe me when I tell you that this too is an instrumental CD that, if I played it to you and told you that it was a new album by an ex-Magma bassist, you would have absolutely no reason to disbelieve me and would be howling with delight and doing even more leaping around the room on hearing the churning electric guitars, the thunderous electric basses, the crashing drum work and the soaring keyboard work. From start to finish this is an absolutely amazing instrumental album with some of the finest bass, drums and guitar work you'll hear in years and whether you're a fan of Magma, powerful King Crimson or any point in between, this is an utterly essential album for your collection and will be one that you play over and over and over again. This is stunning; the bass player even plays in a Japanese Magma covers band callled 'Mekanďk Kommandöh ' while the guitarist plays part time in death metal bands and loves classical music!!! This embodies all that makes Magma and Weidorje and the like so classic in one totally instrumental CD.
HAPPY FAMILY:Toscco Ultra-heavy instrumental jazz-rock, the likes of which you rarely hear these days, and a brilliant new
album from this Japanese quartet of electric guitars, electric bass, keyboards and drums. With 54 mins and 9 tracks, it features some of the most explosive yet melodic/cohesive fusion music around with some thunderous electric bass work in fine Magma traditions, scorching electric guitar leads with keyboards filling out the sound and drums steamrollering through on waves of solid rhythmic foundations. From the odd relaxed spot to positively skull-crushing, this is a solid album and highly recommended to all fusion fans who like it powerful and not overpowering with some barnstorming work from all the musicians concerned on a roaring gem of a second album. (may be worth posting your enquiry on the RIO thread as well. Plenty of Dun devotees on their)
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:21 |
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Yu Gung is absolutely essential BV
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Apsalar
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:47 |
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Yuko, is that one a singe or and album? What other full albums would you consider? I have been looking at my stores catalogue and they have a few of their albums from the '80s, I'm think this would be the best era to focus on.
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:57 |
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This is from an atleast half the time musically trusting buddy about Einstruzende:
-------------------------------------------------------------- The absolutely fantastic: Zeichnungen Des Patienten O.T. Silence Is Sexy The pretty great: Kollaps Halber Mensch Fünf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen Richterskala The decent: Haus Der Lüge Tabula Rasa The meh/patchy: Ende Neu Perpetuum Mobile ----------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 03:05 |
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And just if anyone is looking for some really Intense, Crazy Zeuhl. Look for "Viva Koenji (Ni)" by Koenjihyakkei. "Grembo Zavia", "Rissendo Raimb" and "Guoth Dahha" are the most deliriously insane Zeuhl song's i've ever heard.
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Apsalar
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 03:06 |
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Thanks for that Faaip, the ones in bold are pretty much the stock they have (plus later ones, not too fussed at the moment). The 'Halber Mensch' they have might even be a DVD which could be interesting. So I'm thinkn' Pretty Great is sounding fine for me
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 03:18 |
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It's a single BV. As with most things start with the early recordings
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 03:19 |
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http://www.amazon.com/%BD-Mensch-Einst%FCrzende-Neubauten/dp/B0007WQHLW
Seems The Halber Mensch DVD is not to good. Atleast according to these people. only 1 and a half stars. Hmmm |
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listennow801
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 03:40 |
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One of my most beloved discs - utterly blows my mind every time i listen [this was just re-released by skin graft]. Even better, though, is their latest cd: Angherr Shisspa
cleo
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Ratings of Lady Gnosis: http://www.gnosis2000.net/raterclaire.shtml |
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Apsalar
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 03:49 |
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Phew, thanks for the warning, I think that one can stay were it belongs.
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 03:51 |
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Same here. I think i actuallly listen to atleast one song from it everyday. I'm kinda torn between the two albums though.. Really not sure which one i like more Hmmm I think i'll go listen to Nivraym now.. |
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Faaip_De_Oiad
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 03:53 |
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.. I'm guessing i'll do some reasearch on the stuff Hector recommends now -.- |
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avestin
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 07:20 |
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BV, I need to save some funds this month (otherwise my wife and I will need to cut back on some basic stuff, like food...
 ), but besides some fundemental albums I need to buy (from other genres) I will definitely get at last Abus Dangereux, Vortex and Verto.
A bit off topic, I compiled a list of many French prog acts (about 360-370) many of them not on PA), and I think I will start devoting myself to unravelling that scene which was apparentely huge with many obscure bands, many of whom might fit in this thread.
Have a good everyone,
Assaf
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