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Poll Question: Well... Do you think they are boring?
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I won't vote because this poll is too polarizing.
I have mixed feelings about Pink Floyd, I mean I enjoy their music most of the time but I'm not astonished by it.

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Originally posted by peter_gabriel peter_gabriel wrote:

Originally posted by Sasquamo Sasquamo wrote:

Originally posted by peter_gabriel peter_gabriel wrote:

Originally posted by Sasquamo Sasquamo wrote:

I don't know, I haven't spent a whole lot of time with their music, but generally I think their music is kind of boring.  Call me shallow, but being a musician myself, I usually prefer to listen to music in which I admire and am really impressed by the skill of the musicians.  Pink Floyd just doesn't do that for me...


being a musician myself too, let me tell you that musicians are not machines... are artists... and that is not only virtuosism ... its about the music from the soul
 
True, but it is possible to have soul and have it with virtuosity, I don't think you can really say that being really good takes away all emotions in the music.  Of course, that's just me.


no.. im with you tooLOL

of course you can be virtuoso and have soul.. but you say that you prefer music you admire... its like poeple i know that are about my age... and say.. "oh look dream theater's guitarist in that dvd sounds like he is really god"

so what makes you feel the sensation of music.... admiring a musician, or feeling him?

cause i really think that what i saw in that dvd was kinda boring... but really cool for someone who wants to see a machine hand and admire it...



sorry about my english anywayEmbarrassed

I like this debate. I'm a musician as well and of course I enjoy music that I admire. Even so, I'm also a person and enjoy music that touches me. Nevertheless as a musician I think understand a bit (not much though) about the creativity in music. For me creativity and inventivness are the most important things in music. If you understand more about music and are more crafted in the instrument you play, you have more tools to be creative, although virtuosity isn't the same as creativity.
For me, Pink Floyd aren't all that creative.
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Originally posted by Sasquamo Sasquamo wrote:

Reminds me of Charlie Parker and John Coltrane.  They played blistering fast solos on the saxophone, but if slow down what they're playing or jsut listen really closely, you begin to notice that they are not just doing random notes and scales, but are actually improvising amazing melodies.


oh look you dont understand...

its not What you play... (i mean that is important too) but im talking about HOW you play it
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Originally posted by RaślGuate RaślGuate wrote:

Originally posted by peter_gabriel peter_gabriel wrote:

Originally posted by Sasquamo Sasquamo wrote:

Originally posted by peter_gabriel peter_gabriel wrote:

Originally posted by Sasquamo Sasquamo wrote:

I don't know, I haven't spent a whole lot of time with their music, but generally I think their music is kind of boring.  Call me shallow, but being a musician myself, I usually prefer to listen to music in which I admire and am really impressed by the skill of the musicians.  Pink Floyd just doesn't do that for me...


being a musician myself too, let me tell you that musicians are not machines... are artists... and that is not only virtuosism ... its about the music from the soul
 
True, but it is possible to have soul and have it with virtuosity, I don't think you can really say that being really good takes away all emotions in the music.  Of course, that's just me.


no.. im with you tooLOL

of course you can be virtuoso and have soul.. but you say that you prefer music you admire... its like poeple i know that are about my age... and say.. "oh look dream theater's guitarist in that dvd sounds like he is really god"

so what makes you feel the sensation of music.... admiring a musician, or feeling him?

cause i really think that what i saw in that dvd was kinda boring... but really cool for someone who wants to see a machine hand and admire it...



sorry about my english anywayEmbarrassed

I like this debate. I'm a musician as well and of course I enjoy music that I admire. Even so, I'm also a person and enjoy music that touches me. Nevertheless as a musician I think understand a bit (not much though) about the creativity in music. For me creativity and inventivness are the most important things in music. If you understand more about music and are more crafted in the instrument you play, you have more tools to be creative, although virtuosity isn't the same as creativity.
For me, Pink Floyd aren't all that creative.


yes i kinda agree what you were saying... now the last thing about floyd is subjective...  and  under my point of view..  floyd have done the most creative albums ever.. i mean.. i think that specially in this point, is floyd winning... not only musically,  the lyrics too..

and musically you should check what they've done in albums like... no.. you know.. i was gonna say the most creative albums.. but i found EVERY album creative... except the last 2 onesLOL
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Is Pink Floyd boring?

I say: "is prog rock boring?"

For me: NO!
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asking if PF is boring is like asking if having sex is boring.
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

asking if PF is boring is like asking if having sex is boring.

    

Right on!
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

asking if PF is boring is like asking if having sex is boring.

Well,that depends on who you are having sex with....
    
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I used to enjoy them a substantial amount, but now I haven't listened to them in a while; they're beginning to bore me more. Although they're still a good band, I just can't find myself wanting to listen to anything.
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To put it in the words of someone at another forum I go to, "If you think Pink Floyd is boring you must be deaf. Or dead. Either way, you're stupid."

Well, that might be a little harsh. But I think that the argument is stupid anyway. I don't think that the sound of a band has anything to do with whether or not they are boring. It comes down to if you like their music or not. Personally, I don't care how lound, energetic, and bone-rattling a band's music is, if they aren't good or I simply don't like them, then they are pretty boring to me. Thus, it is subjective and to argue about it is rather pointless.
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No!!

Pink Floyd are one of my favourite groups!!

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Maybe they are boring to a 17 year old boy.
 
That's who you're arguing with, folks -- enough said.Stern Smile
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Depends on the album.
 
Animals is boring, so is most of Ummagumma (the studio parts are effectively putting my cat in a coma) but generally I find them quite entertaining.
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No it is not... BUT I tend to skip their music for months sometimes
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Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Maybe they are boring to a 17 year old boy.
 
That's who you're arguing with, folks -- enough said.Stern Smile


Sure.. it's all an age matterErmm

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Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Maybe they are boring to a 17 year old boy.
 
That's who you're arguing with, folks -- enough said.Stern Smile

Which makes the argument all the more pointless. Wink [/irony] [/hypocracy]


Edited by Nowhere Man - October 06 2006 at 12:14
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It's understandable to find Pink Floyd boring.  I don't think they are, but I can see how some people might not be patient enough for them. 
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Sorry but how can anyone think Floyd are boring!!
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Originally posted by Tristan Mulders Tristan Mulders wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Maybe they are boring to a 17 year old boy.
 
That's who you're arguing with, folks -- enough said.Stern Smile


Sure.. it's all an age matterErmm

Yeah right
Not always, Tristan, but often, in my experience here and in life.
 
When I see a provocative, frankly immature thread like this, I tend to check the age of the person who posted it.
 
Someone my age may well not like Floyd either, but that person likely would see no point in making a thread about that (least of all on a prog forum, where you KNOW Floyd are generally very popular).
 
Most of us do learn as we age, you know.
 
I knew my post would likely offend some younger members, but I see people my age here getting quite upset with the thread's originator, and I just think they should know who they are arguing with.
 
I have been seventeen too. I well remember the cynicism, the assumption that I was as smart and wise then as anyone, as wise as I'd ever be. I wasn't, and I'm still learning.
 
Bottom line -- this is a juvenile, provocative thread, with a topic guaranteed to raise ire here.
 
No doubt all of the Victorian novels I've learned to love are "boring" too -- I would have thought so, at seventeen.
 
I was much more impressed by the lightning-fast playing of Al Dimeola at seventeen than I am now -- now I appreciate soul, beauty and feeling in music (as when Gilmore plays), and I find speed and flash for its own sake to be boring.
 
Anyway, sorry if I offended you, but I just think some people need to remember being 17 (or at least be aware that the person they are arguing with is NOT yet an adult), and not rise to the bait of someone who, in their cynical youth, is too quick to judge, and too quick to tell all around him his particular, likely temporary, "truth."
 
 
 


Edited by Peter Rideout - October 06 2006 at 15:24
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