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    Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:10
I got into Camel when i joined this site through the song samples (when you were able to D/L them) and loved them all. but up until yesterday, i owned 0 albums. i dont know why... so what do i do? i buy every studio album of there's except A Nod and a Wink (couldnt find it). even the not so good albums i find enjoyable. The Snow Goose and the debut are my favs right now, with Mirage and Moonmadness in close second, followed by Nude. after some intense listening all day, a question came to mind. why is this band so underrated on this site? and why are they not discussed as much as YES, Genesis, Dream Theater, ELP, Opeth, King Crimson, or any of the other giants of prog? the music is so beautiful and perfect it's mind boggling!Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:14
I agree, Camel is a fantastic band! Their music is so beautiful, symphonic, touching, emotional... My favourites are Mirage and The Snow Goose (like a lot of other people), but after A Live Record they start to dissapoint... but the first four albums and the live album are great!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:24
Rajaz, Harbour Of Tears, Dust And Dreams are IMHO, extremely well made albums, nothing bad at all. Just not up to par with the 70's albums, but still very good. i think the only one i wish i didnt buy was The Single Factor.
 
ive heard good things about A Nod and a Wink, and i have the one song from here "Squigely Fair", it's one of my favorite Camel tracks. so i'd imagine it's a good album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:27
I don't like them so much. They got some great stand-out tracks but some others just don't appeal to me. I only have Mirage and the Snow Goose though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:44
They don't get discussed as much because there is a strong contingent of Progophiles who seem to think that they are somehow second division because;

a) They write fantastic and accessible melodies
b) They don't go in for overblown virtuosity
c) They stay away from mind-bending avante-garde
d) They don't do polyrhythms or multi-tonalities

None of that matters to me, though - Camel are one of my favourite bands; Premier division Prog in my opinion

It may be a bit predictable, but Mirage is my favourite, followed by the less predictable Harbour of Tears.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:49

I wonder who thinks of them as second division, I think everybody loves Camel, so with no antagonists there will be no heated discussions around them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:58
I've had A Nod And A Wink and Stationary Traveler for quite some time. The other night, however, I went on a bender and ordered Moonmadness, Snowgoose, Mirage, and Rain Dances. Really looking forward to diving right into these when they arrive.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 09:04
is A Nod and a Wink a worthy addition to my collection? Squiggley Fair is an excellent song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 09:40
FIRST DIVISION. With no doubt.Approve
 
Mirage, Snow Goose and Moonmadness are classic.
 
Darkshade - don't waste a minute! Buy A Nod And A Wink - some regard this is their return to "roots".
 
I've heard that Latimer, Ward and Ferguson made a new material lately. What a surprise! I can't wait to listen to it.
And hats off to Pete Bardens...Unhappy RiP.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 09:41
Originally posted by zbida zbida wrote:

FIRST DIVISION. With no doubt.Approve
 
Mirage, Snow Goose and Moonmadness are classic.
 
Darkshade - don't waste a minute! Buy A Nod And A Wink - some regard this is their return to "roots".
 
I've heard that Latimer, Ward and Ferguson made a new material lately. What a surprise! I can't wait to listen to it.
And hats off to Pete Bardens...Unhappy RiP.
 
Listening to The Snow Goose as I type... what a great album!
 
New material from the original guys?  This is great news!!!  Where did you hear that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 09:44
Got into the band lately after many unfruitful attempts, but it just 'clicked'.  Bought their three mandatory albums, 'Mirage', 'The Snow Goose' and 'Moonmadness'.  All great albums! 
 
Next I will purchase (in no particular order) : Camel, A Live Record, Rain Dances, Harbour of Tears, Rajaz & A Nod and a Wink.
 
Any more suggestions anyone?  I really love this band!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 10:38
You bought all their albums (minus 1) in one fell swoop!?! Wow, I don't know what to say...
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Actually, I did the same thing with my golf clubs. The consenus among my friends was that the 7 iron was the club to start with, then work my way through to the more difficult ones. But I ended up saying the hell with it and bought the entire set, although I probably could have skipped the 1 iron! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 11:14

I only have the three classics, but am considering diving into some of their more recent stuff.  But of the three classic albums of theirs, I would rate them like this:

1. Moonmadness

2. Mirage

3. The Snow Goose

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:36
i agree, camel is a fantastic band and is definetly among my favourites. i'm not too familiar with their later releases, but the classics moonmadness, mirage and the snow goose have to be some of the greatest prog records of the 70's. their best moment though is in my opinion the very emotional live version of ice on coming of age. pure brilliance!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:40
Camel have written some brilliant songs, though many feel because they appeared relatively late in 1973  some of their music contains many influences, using keyboards and flute. Personally i think they're a fantastic group and lately have been reacquainting myself with their music, having not heard very much of them for many years. Their early albums are good, my favourite is "Mirage" "Camel"  and "Snowgoose" is a grower!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:41
I have:

Camel 4*
Mirage 5*
Snow Goose 5*+
Moonmadness 5*+
Rain Dances 4*
Breathless 3*
I Can See Your House From Here 3*
Nude 5*
The Single Factor 3*
Stationary Traveller 4*
A Live Record 5*+
Pressure Points 4*

on vinyl and

Rajaz 5*
A Nod and A Wink 4*

on CD

This band are Premier League without doubt; in fact, my favourite band. Certif1ied has hit the nail on the head as to why some rubbish them: they're not pretentious. Exactly the same reason some rubbish my second favourite band, Mostly Autumn, in fact.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:42
For me Camel is the best band in the 70's prog. Call me subjective, I don't care, only Pink Floyd can be compared with them. Yes, Crimson, Genesis... all of them are maybe more complex, but Camel touch emotions like any other band.
 
I'm the only one who thinks that "Air Born" have one of the best beginings of a song in the history of music?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:49
Originally posted by Tony Fisher Tony Fisher wrote:

I have:

Camel 4*
Mirage 5*
Snow Goose 5*+
Moonmadness 5*+
Rain Dances 4*
Breathless 3*
I Can See Your House From Here 3*
Nude 5*
The Single Factor 3*
Stationary Traveller 4*
A Live Record 5*+
Pressure Points 4*

on vinyl and

Rajaz 5*
A Nod and A Wink 4*

on CD

This band are Premier League without doubt; in fact, my favourite band. Certif1ied has hit the nail on the head as to why some rubbish them: they're not pretentious. Exactly the same reason some rubbish my second favourite band, Mostly Autumn, in fact.

 
I have : Mirage 
           Snow Goose
           Moonmadness
 
Which do you suggest I buy next ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:50
Second division? Absolute nonsense- I don't get how a band as musically adept as Camel but with such a strong sense of melody and emotion could be shunned with such an underhand term.
 
My personal favourite is 'Nude'- a masterpiece of prog that simply doesn't get the credit it deserves. It's arguably their best album to these ears, in that it sums up their career in a way. 'The Snow Goose' runs it close, but I like them all bar 'The Single Factor' and even that isn't terrible.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:52
I was at a party a couple of weeks ago and brought the Camel Footage DVD.  Everybody loved it.
 
GREAT BAND!!!
And the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll, gonna blow right down inside your soul.
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