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soundsweird
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Topic: ? for those with 1,000+ albums... Posted: September 15 2006 at 00:58 |
Years ago, when I had only a few hundred albums (counting all of my vinyl, cassettes and CD's), I had no trouble remembering the good and bad tracks on any given album. Now, with about 2,000 CD's and 1,000 LP's, there's just no way to remember unless it's some album I grew up with or have heard dozens of times. I finally started putting a Post-It note on each album as I listened to it, grading each song, and this has helped me to find favorite tracks and avoid despised cuts. Most of my prog albums are burned into my memory, so they're not a problem. However, let's say you have some album of World Music, and all the song titles look like gibberish. How you gonna find your favorite track?
So, my question to those of you with similarly large collections, is this: do you just listen to the whole album no matter what, do you have some system like mine, or do you have an unusually good memory?
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 01:17 |
The really good songs (the 600 or so that I rate 9-10/10) I have burned together on seperate CD's.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:39 |
I've made mp3's of 90% of my whole CD collestion. Much easier, with the chance to make playlists etc.. Vinyl, I rarely play just one track, so its not really an issue.
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purpleblues1
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:48 |
I think it's an age thing..used to be able to remember track listings etc, as well as whether I,d read a book or not.......nowadays have to refer to winamp playlist for music on PC - tried post it notes on new CD's , but they get pulled off in the filing system. But as I tend to buy asnd listen to new CD's, then go back to old favourites as the mood takes me.At the moment am listening to old Hawkwind , Led Zeppelin live bootlegs, Prince back catalogue and new CDs by Bombay Dub Orchestra, Jimmy Thackery,as well as old favs from Iron Maiden ,Saxon ,Whitesnake and the Thievery Corporation!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:49 |
With my LP's, I did a small trick: I left a little mark with a small electronic screwdriver beside (before or left side of) the tracks i liked/loved into the cardboard so it left a barely notable dent . I did the same but on the right side (after) of the tracks I enjoyed but not asmuch. So those left with no markings were the ones I wanted to avoid.
Of course with CDs and their small paper booklets, this was impossible so I did the same with a small pencil >> still barely noticeable.
Of couse with my Cd-Rs I have no such problems since I onlytake the ones I like. Neither did I with cassettes.
So I check out the CD track list and program according to what I like. Of course I can always push the skip >>! button if I hate it too much.
Edited by Sean Trane - September 15 2006 at 10:53
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 13:28 |
Been collecting 45 years, helped by gettin considerable discount working in a record shop, and over the last 20 years doing a radio show, so the collection has grow too large with begged and unsolicited promos. And for instance I may see from record companies and try to hear 10 new albums a month mostly of unknown quality - as well as the albums I buy for my own pleasure. I've grown really chosey, and hear a lot of the old in the new, rarely for the better. It really has to be a very good new album to be heard all the way through nowadays - and perhaps a belated discovery of Kevin Gilbert's Shaming Of the True, Soft Machine's Grides have done that for me this year. But last year most of Cuneiform records releases were pretty damned good.
In compiling a 3 hour radio show each week (purely on a part-timer basis), trying have a balance of the new and the old at approx 60:40, then 30 weeks a year, I tend to do a lot of sampling 1 to 2 minutes of tracks from a lot of albums. But I because I normally walk into work, a discman is my essential travel companion - and so 45 minute per day plus maybe 20 minutes at a handful of lunch breaks allows a lot more of an album to be heard. On occasion when I have to do a long car journey on business, then 6 complete albums can get heard - although the poorer ones will be patiently heard for 4 tracks, and the rest of the tracks sampled for about a minute to hear if things get any better but then removed for something more pleasurable.
The dj ethos prevails in me, since I tend to play favourite tracks rather than whole well-known album for pleasure. And because of this I love putting sample CDs together, because there are very few fully satisfactory albums I want to hear right the way through. The compilations started with a 4 CD set of my favourite jazz rock tracks when I first got a CD burner on my PC (BTW I've now got the 4 down to one CD, and written up for the Abstract Logix website). However, since I've done compilation of prog tracks but by less obvious bands (partly to educate a 17 year old fan of the show who had suddenly discovered prog about 6 years ago), a two CD set of the evolution of brass rock, favourite Indo-jazz fusion, favourite nu.fusion, evolution of prog from garage and psychedelia (1964 - 1971), the best of the Johansson brother, the Jonas Hellborg, Kevin Gilbert, British blues boom tracks, favorite tracks from vinyl (which either not been released on CD or if released on CD, not bought having only the one track worth worrying about).
Currently sampling great riffs (known and unknown) from albums to be made up for some radio jingles. One of the station's jingle-making whizs took my samples of Terry Riley, Krimson, Kansas, Gary Lucas, Chicago, Edgar Brougton Band, Mahvishnu Orchestra, Lifetime, Procupine Tree, Holdsworth, Zappa etc, and produced three excellent 40 second programme IDs for me - check out the ALT2 for these when it comes back on the air.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 14:08 |
soundsweird wrote:
So, my question to those of you with similarly large collections, is this: do you just listen to the whole album no matter what, do you have some system like mine, or do you have an unusually good memory?
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I ripped all my albums as high resolution mp3 files ... I listen to them using Winamp, which allows me to access & browse the albums easily. Currently the media library contains 18,000 tracks (1,500 albums), and I don't have any problem finding stuff to listen to. As for individual tracks ... I rather think in terms of albums, and if I decide to listen to an album I'll listen to it as a whole (maybe I'll start skipping tracks when I'm bored).
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 15:49 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
soundsweird wrote:
So, my question to those of you with similarly large collections, is
this: do you just listen to the whole album no matter what, do you have
some system like mine, or do you have an unusually good memory?
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I
ripped all my albums as high resolution mp3 files ... I listen to them
using Winamp, which allows me to access & browse the albums easily.
Currently the media library contains 18,000 tracks (1,500 albums), and
I don't have any problem finding stuff to listen to.
As for
individual tracks ... I rather think in terms of albums, and if I
decide to listen to an album I'll listen to it as a whole (maybe I'll
start skipping tracks when I'm bored).
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Mike what annoys me about MP3 is the dropout between tracks - it
was really annoying listening to the originally continuous
soundtrack fo Kevin Gilbert The Shaming Of The True on that format
fading and coming back between tracks. Is there any MP3 software that
avoids this problem and gives greater listening pleasure?
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Kleynan
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 16:03 |
I'm only 17, so my record collection isn't very big yet. I've got about 80 LP's and 300 CD's. I don't even listen to half of the stuff, it belongs in the past.
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moonlapse
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 17:05 |
I prefer listening to the whole album so in a way, I'm glad my collection is only about 250-300 CD's. If you have 3,000 albums altogether, you would have to listen to about 8 per day, every day, just to hear each album once per year.
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 18:39 |
I only listen to albums as a whole, so that doesn't matter at all
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Nanook
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 19:14 |
One solution is the iPod or whatever mp3 suits your fancy. A 60 gig iPod can hold well over 10000 prog songs. The reason I specified 10K is the length of some prog songs vs pop type songs. 15000 short songs can fit on an iPod with the 60 gig drive.
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Australian
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 19:22 |
I have...no where near 1000 album but I keep all the albums I own in an Excel spreadsheet so I know what I have.
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Pulse
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 22:02 |
Australian wrote:
I have...no where near 1000 album but I keep all the albums I own in an Excel spreadsheet so I know what I have. |
I used to do that until about half a year ago. It worked fairly well with an auto filter but it was quite a bit of work to keep it organized. Now I use Windows Media Player 11 and I've had no problems (worth mentioning). It does an excellent of organizing your music files in whatever way you select. It can rip the files from a CD at any of the common bit rates. There's no pause between tracks. Of course you may run in to difficulties if you need to organize vinyls and casettes and if you don't run Windows you can't use Windows Media Player.
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Bj-1
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Posted: September 15 2006 at 22:08 |
I have a pretty good memory when it comes to my CD collection, so I know where looking if im gonna listen to a favorite track of mine.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 16 2006 at 02:26 |
There are two possible reasons for that gap: - Bad ripping software (which adds a few seconds of silence to the files) - Bad player If you're using Windows, the best solution would be to use winamp to listen to the files. It has really many options, and one of them is gapless playback. With that you can even remove the small gap that standalone CD players have (it's only a fraction of a second, but nevertheless annoying). If you want to try winamp let me know in this thread - and I'll explain how to configure gapless playback.
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soundsweird
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 00:29 |
So, most of you went the high-tech route.... I should've mentioned that I don't even own a computer. I use the ones at work and in the recording studio, but not for burning CD's of my record collection.
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BaldJean
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 03:57 |
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
The really good songs (the 600 or so that I rate 9-10/10) I have burned together on seperate CD's.
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yikes; I would never listen to songs outside the context of the whole album. in the same spirit I don't skip a song I don't like when listening to an album
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The Whistler
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 03:59 |
One thousand plus? Here's my question...where do you sleep?!?
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BaldJean
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 04:28 |
as everyone knows, dragons sleep on their hoards and proggers on their CDs
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