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Points: 19551 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2006 at 19:15
Originally posted by Tarcisio Moura Tarcisio Moura wrote:

P.S. I think that if Renaissance released its first albums nowadays they'd be called neo prog. And even Yes and Genesis would face similar problems (at least with their first 2 releases). 
 
Sorry to disagree Tarcisio (I always do, so get used, it's not personal LOL):
 
  1. Renaissance first two albums were closer to Folk rather than Symphonic but all along their career they played in the borderline of both genres.
  2. Yes debut, with covers and everything was a very advanced album, closer to Proto Prog than to Symphonic but since the start we all knew what they were going to be.
  3. Genesis first album was top 40 stuf that didn't reached the charts  because of a bad management, but their second album was 200% Prog.

None of this three bands could be remotely Neo Prog in their first albums for a simple reason, there was no Neo Prog before 1979 or in the worst scenario before A Trick of theTail because for some people this was the first Neo Prog album ever.

I will check with my team, already I have the music and have to insist in my point, they guitar a la Roothery is so strong that Airion can be considered Neo Prog easily, the music is good but IMO less pompous and brilliant as in Symphonic and at the same time lush and sober as in Neo Prog.
 
But please send me by PM the bio you made.
 
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Points: 198 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2006 at 06:49
Dear Ivan:

Don't worry about not agreeing with me, it's always good to hear a different opinon. Besides, it would be a boring life if everybody agreed with one another, wouldn't it? The only pont I want to correct is that I know there was no neo prog before 1979, if you read carefully I was just saying that if those bands released their first albuns TODAY, they might be labelled as such.  But really I was joking. I don't really know how to label a band that well. But I like neo prog very much and I rate Marillion highly. During the dark times of the 80's I think they were crucial to keep prog music alive, well and in the public eye, even if some purists did not see them  as "real" prog or things like that.

Anyway I sent you a personal message and it looks like you did not got it. Did you?
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Points: 198 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2006 at 18:01
OH, by the way:

Do you really think Arion is less pompous than the average Symphonic band? How pompous they should sound to be labeled as such?
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Points: 19551 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2006 at 22:58
Originally posted by Tarcisio Moura Tarcisio Moura wrote:

OH, by the way:

Do you really think Arion is less pompous than the average Symphonic band? How pompous they should sound to be labeled as such?
 
Tarcisio, it''s not a matter of degrees or precision, it's a bit experience and a bit feeling to value influences.
 
I believe they are closer to Neo Prog, lets wait for whhat the whople team says.
 
BTW: Never received your PM
 
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I will send a new one. The biography I'm sending is not exactly the one I wrote, since I got no copy of it. I hope you like it. About the samples: do you want me to send to you? Or did you get the ones I sent to the site?

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HI, Ivan:

Arion Biography was sent by PM. Please aknowledge it.

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HI, Cesar:

Iwas curious how you learnt about Arion, since the CD is so hard to find nowadays and it seems no one could find it on the internet for downloading. How did you get the CD? Can you tell me?

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Points: 19551 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2006 at 13:18
It's here Tarcisio, I will add it after I can publish the list of bands awaiting for publication since last week 8We need that two team leaders accept the bands we're sending).
 
You will be able to add the discography after this.
 
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Hi, Ivan:

I'll be waiting then. Did you still want the samples? If so, where should I send them?

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Hey, you guys:

Have anybody found this CD on market (outside Brazil) or in the internet? I'd like to know if still avaliable in some form.

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I bought it in the Internet last year.
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Points: 198 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2006 at 07:50
Hi, cesar:

It's interesting, since everybody is asking where to buy it. Where did you find it? Can you tell me which site it was?

Thansk a lot

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Originally posted by Tarcisio Moura Tarcisio Moura wrote:

Hi, cesar:

It's interesting, since everybody is asking where to buy it. Where did you find it? Can you tell me which site it was?

Thansk a lot

Tarcísio



There are a few sites around that deal in the harder to find stuff. I think a couple are completely supported by our membership.

a.k.a. H.T.

http://riekels.wordpress.com
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Hi, Cesar:

Ok, I'll recomend to those guys to seek information with you about the sites. I also like your remark about your religion!

Thanks a lot

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I am listening right now Eyes Of Time from Arion, a wonderful song with fourteen minutes!
What a beatiful piece of symphonic rock!
This band SHOULD be in PA!!!
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It is since today - check the list of bands on the homepage!
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Uau, so rapid... Smile
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Hi, progbrazil:

Nice to meet you. Yes, Eyes Of Time is a great song on the CD, but my favorite is still Land Of Dreams. Do you know it? This was the last song they played when they opened for Focus when this dutch prog legend played in Belo Horizonte.

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Hey, you guys!

I'd like to thnk you all very much for giving me your time, support and PMs. I not only saw Arion be included here o ProgArchives, but I also found many new friends. Thank you all for the kind words, information, help, advising, critics, suggestions, etc. I could not have made it without you.

My best regards
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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2006 at 20:19
Originally posted by Tarcisio Moura Tarcisio Moura wrote:

Hey, you guys!

I'd like to thnk you all very much for giving me your time, support and PMs. I not only saw Arion be included here o ProgArchives, but I also found many new friends. Thank you all for the kind words, information, help, advising, critics, suggestions, etc. I could not have made it without you.

My best regards
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Tarcísio Moura
 
And now what do you think of shortening your sig, TMoura? Big smile
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