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lastdodobird 
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Joined: May 12 2006 Status: Offline Points: 93 |
 Topic: Should Iron Maiden be classified as Prog-Posted: August 31 2006 at 04:54 |
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Iron Maiden has actually given off a very prog feel oftentimes, and now, with the release of their latest album - " A Matter of Life and Death" - which has been dubbed as "their most prog yet", I just have to ask if they should be classified as "prog-metal"?
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Raff
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:00 |
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A definitely positive answer from me.... But I'm not a member of the PM team, and I know some of the actual members are against their inclusion. Sad, but there's nothing to do about it...
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mystic fred
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:03 |
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This subject has been discussed many times in PA, many feel they should be included - they're a very borderline case, though their new album "A Matter of Life and Death"is a reasonable argument for inclusion!
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RoyalJelly
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Joined: September 29 2005 Status: Offline Points: 582 |
Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:03 |
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Aren't there enough Heavy Metal discussion forums? Would we then have to include Techno and Hip Hop that sometimes has a "prog feel"?
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Trickster F.
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Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:06 |
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Once again, no, and I've heard their latest too. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:26 |
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Yesterday I listened to Seventh Son again - I last listened to it more than 15 years ago. I'd say that a good part of the album is progressive. Then on the other hand some songs are not progressive at all, and that makes it hard to judge the album as a whole.
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Big Ears
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Joined: February 08 2005 Location: Hants, England Status: Offline Points: 727 |
Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:31 |
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Classic Rock magazine has referred to them as such.
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lastdodobird
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:36 |
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Well okay, they don't just have a "prog feel", they do sound prog; and, they don't just do it sometimes. From midway through their career, they've almost always sounded prog.
I did a search and it didn't yield any topics about Iron Maiden on the prog lounge so I cooked this one up.
Positive answer from me too. |
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sularetal
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Joined: November 24 2005 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 264 |
Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:37 |
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Iron Maiden prog??? Thats the band that made me start listening to metal (like most of the people I know). Now I cant really stand them (generally power metal stuff). I cant stand other bands like nightwish and rhapsody too but i see they are on PA. Its like wanting to put on PA all the bands we like, trying to make others belive they are. If a band isnt prog its fine with me. I cant stand this tendency to call "prog" all the bands that we like. For example, the fact that rhapsody apart from power metal have also orchestral strings, doesn't make them prog. This doesnt mean its crap, just not prog. Thats my opinion though....
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Chipiron
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:40 |
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IMO, they're more "Prog" than some other artists in PA, but...
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Trickster F.
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 05:53 |
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There is your answer, how do expect to find topics about a band not in the archives in the sub forum for bands that are in the archives?
 This has been discussed to death, and I think there is about one Prog-Metal specialist in favour of their inclusion.
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KeyserSoze
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Joined: April 09 2005 Location: Czech Republic Status: Offline Points: 228 |
Posted: August 31 2006 at 06:01 |
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Iron Maiden prog?? Ok, we can add Judas Priest and AC/DC into PA as well and then every band in the world...
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sularetal
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 06:06 |
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 Why dont priest have prog moments????
kiddin'...
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lastdodobird
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 06:07 |
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The only difference being that Iron Maiden actually has an argument for it. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 06:09 |
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^ are you sure you know what you're talking about - do you know Seventh Son, Brave New World and their latest album? I don't see how anyone could compare them to any AC/DC album - they're miles apart in terms of progressiveness.
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Hatters
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 06:53 |
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Personally I dont understand why Fates Waring, Fantomas etc are called prog and Iron Maiden is not because when I listen to them they sound the same as Maiden.
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RoyalJelly
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 07:47 |
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Why not start a new website, called www.heavymetalwithprogmomentsarchives.com?
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KeyserSoze
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 07:51 |
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RoyalJelly
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 07:52 |
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Why not start a new website, called www.heavymetalwithprogmomentsarchives.com?
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Raff
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 08:08 |
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Actually, Priest DO have prog moments - I would recommend you check their "Sad Wings of Destiny", which has very often be mentioned here as a possible 'ancestor' of prog-metal. As regards Iron Maiden, there has been extensive debate on the possibility of including them not as a full-fledged PM band, but rather as Prog-Related - which, in my very, very humble opinion, would be quite fair to them, seen as the section includes a band like Wishbone Ash, often quoted by IM themselves as one of their main influences. |
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