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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2006 at 19:53
Cool

Why? A lot on your mind? Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2006 at 20:11
I'm in trouble again I can get a little carried away when I get talking about Japanese music
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2006 at 20:35
I was in town today and I bumped into my mate Al and was chatting about Can and VdGG.  I said I was getting into Japanese stuff and he mentioned the Boredoms straight away, haha.  He's not heard of OOIOO though.  I may have converted him.

Assaf: I got your e-mails... your instructions didn't work, I still cannot get to the link!  Yes I am logged in as well...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2006 at 20:47
Two words, chaps: IDIOT FLESH.

I dare you to be disappointed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2006 at 22:35
I must nod in agreement with you TP. Unforunately I only have one album by the band "Tales Of Instant Knowledge and Sure Death"

There is a little review to get everyones fancies going.

"Idiot Flesh was an experimental/avantgarde group that later developed into the San Francisco based Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. They released 3 albums and a single EP during their existence in the 1990s. "Tales of Instant Knowledge and Sure Death" was their first outing. There are many different genres and styles all mixed up into a circus-like atmosphere of craziness. Like SGM, Idiot Flesh worked off a mix of dark and threatening-sounding influences, but with less cohesive melding and far more jump-cuts: They would snap on a dime from Metal to Industrial to RIO to 20th Century Classical Quotes and then off the map to Funk or Vaudeville or Country and back just as fast. (Sometimes they resembled a really evil version of Gentle Giant.) As a result, they often sounded more overtly "prog".
Idiot Flesh also used to put on an even more theatrical performance than SGM does: Besides the gargoylish makeup and costumes, they used elaborate props, including giant foam-rubber masks, sets, and inflating suits. Their shows often opened and closed with rackety vaudevillean routines done in and through the audience. On top of this, they worked with many auxiliary sideshow performers, such as the fire-dancer Beefra the Cook, Hatcha and Datcha the Siamese Twins, a Punch and Judy show, and a number of others. All of this made touring a nightmare, although they did manage to get on the road several times a year.
Artistically, the band seemed to aim mostly at repeatedly whapping audiences upside the head to jolt them out of seen-it-all indifference. This worked: they had quite a following in the Bay Area. However, they never seemed too clear on what more they meant by all the quick changes and bizarre visuals. The lyrics didn't help much - they usually put forth sardonic jokes, ruminated about the contradictions of performance and the ironies of pop culture, or wallowed in a self-conscious dark ugliness. Most of the words to Nothing Show derived from their obscure, involved band-mythology. Sometimes Idiot Flesh just seemed like the World's Best Novelty Band (well, West Coast of the US, anyway), although they always offered a wild ride and never failed to deliver on that promise. But at the end, they had started to do more, had begun to find an emotional core in all the routines and style-changes, appeared to have found out what they wanted to say with them. And, although the usual tensions and frustrations caused the Idiots to go the way of all Flesh, much of what they'd become at the end continued on into Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. Highly recommended."

    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2006 at 18:48
I could not stand this thread dropping to the second page, so hear we go.

Since there has been much interest in some of the bands coming out of infamous Kansai scene (Boredoms/ooioo, I will not drop anymore name here for everyones sake ). I thought I would let people know about the band:

LIMITED EXPRESS (HAS GONE?)



Feeds You! (TZADIK)


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"As far as transport goes, Train is king in Japan, and whilst their kooky moniker is obviously inspired by such, 'express' is a suitable notion for the Kyoto combo Limited Express (Has Gone?) to evoke. Rhythmic at essence, the outfit are a pop-band/power-trio spun from an almost kraut-like devotion to rhythm and repetition, almost a little like Buffalo Daughter in their style, even though their tendency to spiral out into territories more 'out' allies them with the virtuoso dudes of the Tzadik label. Whilst they never break their rhythmic stride, there's a hardcore spirit and a neo-psychedelic slant that makes them seem a little wild; more locomotive than shinkansen; and with a chug and a rattle they can rollick down rhythmic lines a little loopier than the regular patterns of flickering-lines-of-the-highway or the-flickering-lights-of-space so often evoked by Neu!esque outfits. On their debut disc, Limited Express marry such rollicking with the nearly-obligatory J-Indies cutesiness; wedding bassist Yukari Mimura's screechy, girlish vocals to their taught compositions. But the quiet disparities between such are amplified on the set's centrepiece; a 'remix' of closing cut Lavo --a cut kinda reminiscent of Seagull Screaming Kiss Her Kiss Her's Count 0 Number 1-- in which the entirety of the song is pulled way down in the mix, and possibly even treated with a light flange, whilst Yukari and Jinichiro Iida's vocals are left pristine and clean out front of the sound. It's an eerie, striking, strangely-pretty moment on the disc; showing the sweetness and pop elements of the band on plain display by stripping away the clamorous racket of their rollicking rhythm. Once you've heard this, it's hard to hear their craft as something wholly whole again; other cuts --especially the 'normal' version of Lavo that closes the record-- now seeming like a strange union of sweet singing and rockband racket."


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2006 at 20:45
I came so close to winning a new copy of Guapo's Hirohito on ebay but lost the auction in the last 30 seconds (as I was about to outbid the guy).Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2006 at 20:54
Why isn't Idiot Flesh listed on the archives?
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2006 at 21:21
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Why isn't Idiot Flesh listed on the archives?


Oh, I didn't realise they were not, I guess they will have to go through the selection process. They indeed are a sorely forgotten about band.


Joren is that a Bathory album I see as your Avatar
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2006 at 00:37
I saw today a Massacre (Tzadik, 1999 - Fred Frith, Bill Laswell, Charles Hayward) album - Funny Valentine in the store. I have Killing Time (Celluloid, 1981 - Frith, Laswell, Maher) which I like a lot and I was wondering if it would be a good purchase, based on that?
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2006 at 06:23
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I saw today a Massacre (Tzadik, 1999 - Fred Frith, Bill Laswell, Charles Hayward) album - Funny Valentine in the store. I have Killing Time (Celluloid, 1981 - Frith, Laswell, Maher) which I like a lot and I was wondering if it would be a good purchase, based on that?
 
 
 
Definitely - the reconvened Massacre with Charles Hayward made 2 albums, Funny Valentine and Meltdown (recorded live at Robert Wyatt's meltdown a few years ago), both excellent. You can get them from Wayside music for (I think) 15 dollars each, which is extremely cheap by UK standards.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2006 at 11:03
^^^
Thank you, Chris.
The one I saw at the store is 17$, so I think that it is somewhat similar in price as Wayside along with their shipping.
I was actually surprised to see some prog cd's I never would have thought would be in a mainstream music store.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2006 at 11:42
Bump...
 
Nothing special to add right now, but I can say that if US residents are interested in Massacre, ReR USA are offering them at lower prices than WaySide music - 14$ for cd and the shipping is free.
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2006 at 17:18
The good ol' Bump... in threat of getting in trouble again I will just recommended one album for the mean time.

This band was part of the late '70s - '80s Zeuhl bands from France, with vast Jazzy touches. There was a brief name droped in the Zeuhl 5 thread abotu this band. So I though I would fill people in a little more about this band.


ABUS DANGEREUX
The quatrieme mouvement



musicians
*Pierrejean Gaucher/guitar
*Eric Bono/keyboard
*Laurent Kzrewina/sax
*Pascal Gaillard/bass
*Alain Mourey/drums
*Sylvie Voise/vocal
*Catriona Walsia/vocal
*Dan Ken/vibraphone
*Arnaud Jarlan/percussion
*Nigel Warren Green/cello

recorded in December 1979
released in 1980

To make it from landladies in in the record debut of this band French it is just that typical progressive Jazz of oltralpe that a lot must to the English school (Canterbury is not then therefore far…) but that the acts of band like MAGMA, GONG or ZAO have contributed to render absolutely personal and meaningfully it originates them. ABUS DANGEREUX is however one creature (10 musicians!!!) that it sees to its inside to shine the compositiva star of PierreJean Gaucher, chitarristico talent in large I dust also in the organization of the general sound of the group. Its complex partiture totally characterize for their continuous cangianti atmospheres, previewing for the listener one necessary attention and concentration, rewarded but with interesting sonorous elements to the height of the situation. It goes moreover noticed with particular appreciation the fact that Caucher relatively remains however “defiladed” in the general sound, privileging the chisel, the “particular one” to the eventual solistiche exposures, left instead the talent of Laurent Kzrewina (sax) and Eric Bono (keyboards). One chosen evidently dictated more from reasons than sonorous effectiveness that do not give a shape of performantica shyness. Gaucher is evidently one that it knows to listen to the band and it knows when it is the moment of porsi in light with discretion and measure. In short a great beautiful disc of jazz-prog of the end of years seventy, one of the little last blows of tail of a musical intelligence that them little will lose every contact with the juvenile musical market supplanted from attitudes and “worthy appearances” more of the display windows than a whichever center trades them rather than not of a disc store.
Absolutely advised!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2006 at 17:34
^^^Sounds very very interesting to me. Can we hear samples or something?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2006 at 17:50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2006 at 19:11
Abux Dangereux is a very nice album, and surprisingly, one I was trying to remember for another thread (thanks!). Came out on CD a couple years ago and immediately disappeared (I think Wayside had some copies recently), with the tracks in a different order than the LP (I prefer the album -- not sure if it's only because that's my first acquaintence with it or what). The group's released several after this, which I haven't heard, but apparently this (their first) is the best; I understand they got sort of "popular jazz" somewhere down the line, but you certainly can't go wrong with Le Quatrieme Mouvement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2006 at 19:41
Yes I had forgotten they did produce another few albums, but have not gotten around to paying much attention to them:

(a) in 1982
Happy French Band in 1983
Live in 1985
Japanese Bop

I think a sampling would have to be install before purchasing any of their later albums.

Yes this is quite are to pick up these days, I got it from Musea when they first reissued the album. But unforunately they are out of stock at the moment, which is a shame as Le Quatrieme Mouvement is a album sorely over looked by most
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2006 at 23:10
Hi everyone. I'm getting myself one of John Zorn's "quiet". I'll post my first impressions later this night.




This one:

John Zorn - Redbird

Track listing

1. Dark River (8:52)
2. Redbird (41:01)

Total Time: 49:53

Line-up

- Jim Pugliese / bass drums (1), percussion
- Carol Emanuel (2) / harp
- Jill Jaffe (2) / viola
- Erik Friedlander (2) / cello
- John Zorn / conductor


And a little description:

Proving once again that some of his most beautiful pieces come when he is paying tribute to someone, Redbird, a tribute to the artist Agnes Martin, is a work of ambient and minimalist grace. The album consists of two pieces: a shorter percussive piece called "Dark River," and a 41-minute work for harp, viola, cello and percussion called "Redbird." Each conveys a hypnotic quality that does justice to its subject. Martin is an incredibly spiritual artist, whose minimal gestures on canvas and paper exude auras of calm. Redbird captures that sense in music and, in its continuity, becomes one of Zorn's most effective tributes. As always, Zorn has managed to collect a group of extremely talented musicians, and their execution of this album makes it even more perfect.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2006 at 02:01
Well... my first impressions is that I won't be raving about this album since there's very little going on. The first track is some very quiet bass playing some very sparse notes (The song ends and I didn't even noticed I was already in the second song) and the second one is better, but never mindblowing. I actually found it pleasant concidering that its late at night and I'm relaxed. It's made up of only one melody repetetively played over 40+ minutes. The notes are played very separetly from one another and thats it. That's the album. I't may sound stale, but it's a good album to listen to if you're into the kind of music and in the right mood. I found it to be more of a background music like Eno's ambient works.

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