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cscrutinizer 
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Joined: June 13 2006 Status: Offline Points: 14 |
 Posted: August 10 2006 at 16:48 |
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Ok... This is clearly the Dungeons and Dragons small weenie crowd here. I just saw a review of DSOTM on the home page that doesn't deal with the music at all.
The review I posted did deal with the music:
"Anyone can play the drums, keyboards, guitars, bass lines, etc. to any Pink Floyd song. There is not much that is creative, virtuosic, or even interesting about most of their work. The guitar solos are boring, blues-based rock. Nothing innovative. The keyboards are w**kery."
I am laughing so hard that "w**kery" was censored. That word is even tolerated by the new conservative FCC (oh, and the FCC does not even censor web content, because it is not considered a "broadcast").
This site is full of unicorn-humping lame-o's that cannot think for themselves. If someone criticizes their sacred album, they can't deal with it, so they delete it. Very American of you... You have bright future with Fox News...
I can't belive the irony of a site that touts progressive rock material, like Frank Zappa, and has such an intolerant level of censorship. Do you even know what that music is about? Do you even think members of Pink Floyd would agree that a "bad" review of their album should be suppressed? Did you get the exact opposite message from their music?!?
Oh well... To me this is a case of pathetic nerds who have some minute amount of power in the world, and they choose to wield it in the wrong way. Thank goodness none of you will have any real power in the world.
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Trickster F.
Prog Reviewer 
Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 16:54 |
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Go away.
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richardh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 27956 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 16:54 |
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Shouldn't moderators lead by example?:-
EMERSON LAKE & PALMER (ELP) — Works Vol. 1Review by Tony R (Tony Riviere)ADMIN Forum Admin & Moderator
...ok admittedly very funny but does this actually meet the criteria of an acceptable review? |
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cscrutinizer
Forum Newbie
Joined: June 13 2006 Status: Offline Points: 14 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:04 |
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The people who run this site are hipocrites. This is the tiny amount of power they have in the world. They are like the pathetic losers at the DMV who just love the little ounce of power they have. Here's a review they accepted, and is so great, they put it on the home page:
"Dark Side of the Moon- This is obsviously one of the best albums of all time because of its musical content and its sales. This album is a complete masterpiece that leaves nothing to be desired afterwards. It fulfills all of your expectations. This album is a collaboration between the whole band and really expresses all of the band's individual and communal talents. Although in my opinion this album is not Floyd's BEST. I think Wish You Were Here is the BEST. But DSOTM is still a masterpiece. The music is beautiful and creepy at the same time. The band does s great job with the madness theme through some wicked sound effects and that funny but creepy as hell laugh on brain damage and the opening track. Im not going to outline every song like my predecessors have but im here just to contribute my overall opinion and to add yet another 5 star rating to this albums surfeit. This album is a masterpiece and is definately deserving of its place in the top five best prog albums of all time."
Stuff like "the music is beautiful and creepy at the same time" is not of any value. My review went into more depth about the music, but because it is critical of the over-rated nature of this album, it was deleted.
Now that I am aware of this, I take the reviews on this site with a grain of salt and a dose of reality. The moderators of this site are blinded by the market share and sales stats of record, and the reputation that an album has amongst the lemmings in the progressive rock community. This is no better than Kasey Casem's Top 40, but since less people are aware of progressive music, there is more of a Dungeons and Dragons quality to their pathetic nature.
Thank goodness none of you will ever have any real power in this world. If you can't handle free speech at the level of record reviews, imagine the negative impact you would have on subordinate employees, constituents, or concert attendees.
OK, have fun agreeing with each other. Invisible Touch rules, dudes...
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Tony R
Special Collaborator 
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:09 |
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Well I'd just like to thank cscrutinizer and RichardH for their input.
Edited by Tony R - August 10 2006 at 17:09 |
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Syzygy
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7003 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:15 |
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I was going to respond, but from looking at your post it's obvious that:
Edited by Syzygy - August 10 2006 at 17:16 |
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Tony R
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:17 |
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Admin Action:
Mr Cscrutinizer has been locked in the dungeon by this particular dragon. |
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:20 |
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No - a review gets on the Home page once it has been submitted. That review clearly talks about and gives an opinion on the album in question. It's not the most eloquent or technically loaded, but it doesn't try or pretend to be. When someone spots that a review is a load of rubbish, offensive, or not about the album, then it gets reported and dealt with, as has been explained to you.
Yes it is - it's someone's opinion of the music.
I can categorically back the admins up that reviews are NEVER deleted because they express a negative opinion. My Dream Theater reviews would never have survived if that was the case!
This site has nothing to do with market shares or sales stats, just people's opinions - that's all. Sadly I missed your review, but if it was deleted, it must've been either insulting, or not about the album, because that's the way things work here. |
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21136 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:21 |
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So you failed the test?
Nobody "puts" reviews on the front page. If you haven't figured out yet how reviews appear on the front page ... well sorry John, bertter try it again.
You didn't say anything about the music except that it sucks. In the second part of the "review" you went completely overboard and used it as a platform to talk about how you see prog (and the world) in general, which is completely off topic.
 Likewise! |
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Syzygy
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7003 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:22 |
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Just out of curiosity, Tony, have you ever played Dugeons & Dragons? I don't think I've even been in the same building as a game of D & D myself.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Cygnus X-2
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 24 2004 Location: Bucketheadland Status: Offline Points: 21342 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:23 |
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I like the little Joe's Garage reference, there, Mike.
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Tony R
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:28 |
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Not unless it involves leather bondage and a bottle of tabasco sauce...
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:39 |
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In my experience, it usually involves at least 3 spotty students, a whole load of multi-sided dice and a huge sheet of rules that no-one can work out, or if anyone does, no-one else ever agrees - although if it's my house, then I'm right. It was just the once, and I didn't enjoy it, OK... 
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21136 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:44 |
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Anytime! 
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member 
Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:52 |
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The guy can't take a clue.
 Let me put it in easy to understand language for you:
1) Your review was deleted because it was of no use. You went into no depth at all.
2) You were suspened because you can't control your misplaced anger and resort to childish name-calling and you degraded a site which you don't understand in any form or fashion and the respectable reviewers who contribute to it.
I'm glad you're gone, though I wish you were banned.
Go harass some other site with your reviews and attitude. Edited by stonebeard - August 10 2006 at 19:04 |
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bhikkhu
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: A² Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 19:28 |
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It kind of sounds like that, "but I didn't inhale" thing.
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GoldenSpiral
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 20:23 |
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Tony R
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: August 10 2006 at 20:28 |
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: August 11 2006 at 00:49 |
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okay,nice developement of the subject while I was gone.
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The Miracle
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: August 11 2006 at 01:02 |
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Tony R wrote:
I really love this album,from the ham-fisted keyboards to the twee vocals and from every over-blown piece of orchestration right up to the masterpiece of mirth that is Pirates. Long years in the making,due to ego clashes and arguments about makeup,Elton John being part of the recording process then not and finally producer Pete Waterman being replaced by Little Jimmy Osmond,the band finally got this meisterwerk out into the public consciousness.Once out there it was a smash,spending 16 weeks at Number One in Albania and going Quadruple Platinum in Belize. When one listens to Emerson's Piano Concertos one is immediately reminded of Les Dawson's egregious masterpieces of the early 70's.I can think of no higher praise than that. I find that "The Enemy God Dances With The Black Spirits" fills me with nostalgia,or should that be neuralgia? I'm not sure but I know that Mrs Palmer should have decided against that shiny red kit for young Carl's 6th Birthday.Pirates- what can I say?I nearly walked the plank the first time I heard this 13 minute epic.It sounds like the ungodly product of a demonic union between WS Gilbert and The Village People and is breath-taking in its excrutiating awfulness and willfull over-ambition.There is nothing like a great Prog Rock Album and this is nothing like a great Prog Rock Album 