Zeuhl 5

Haha... I think I might be a little young to remember the real versions of Monkey Magic. But over here in Australia when I was very yuong they had a cartoon version of the show that I used to watch. My memory is a bit vage but I it might have been based around the Japanese show.

Les Rallizes DeNudes. This is about as underground as things get, quite expensive collectors items if I might say so.

This is a fantastic site about the band... though I think most of us are going to have a bit of trouble reading it . Most of it is in Japanese, but from what I can tell seems to go into a bit of detail about the band... correct me if I am wrong in saying this.

www.yk.rim.or.jp/~ubud/rallizes.html

From I have:

- Studio & Soundboard
- Live '77 2CD

sitting on my computer, but has as yet to listen to them. Consiquently I have heard them likened to bands like "People" do you know how true this is?

Yes it is a little OTT (I find this to be the case with a lot of reviews from that site), but it is quite informative so thank you for this.

In regards to Datetenryu, yes you are quite correct they are a Japanese band.

Here is a little bit of information on the band, not in the most detail but it should give a little idea.

Funky bass, swirling keyboards, melodic riffs, epic, soaring solos -- Japan's Datetenryu sports all the hallmarks of the notorious psychedelic prog-rock genre. And well it should: This group from the Kansai area (Osaka/Kobe/Kyoto) dates back to 1971, and is considered a prog progenitor in its native land. The band -- which was named after a racehorse (Datetenryu loosely translates as "cool flying dragon")
an underground band formed in 1971. They apparently played a kind
of psychedelic progressive rock with blues touches. Guitarist Hiroshi Narazaki was also in Brain Police and Les Rallizes Denudes . There are numerous CDs available covering recordings from 1971-1981, but I don't think they released any albums at the time. The only CDs I have titles for are 'Datetenryu' [rec. 1971], 'Unto' [Belle Antique, 1978/1997?; out of print] and 'Red Afternoon Blues' [Walking Press Records, 2004]
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Ah I just did another search then and they have offical website, which I was quite surprised about.

homepage2.nifty.com/unto/cinema.html

No, It seems unforunate that I have not even heard anything at all about this band. But they definately seem to be something I would be interested in. Considering the links to Shub Niggurath and Boredoms. I have been looking for bands like the Boredoms (other than the obvious ones) for a while now. So I will try and see what I can do about getting to know these guys a little better. Do you know which members from Shub are present?

I know they are not really Zeuhl but I though this would be the place to ask. What do people think of the band Datetenryu? I have been listening to one of their albums tonight and it seems quite good in places though I was a bit turned off by some of the cheese scattered throughout the album.

As an aside, my old boss used to be the original drummer in the ultra-mysterious Les Rallies DesNudes/Hadaka no Rallies ! Right miserable sod he is.

Ok, back on zeuhl. Can anyone answer my earlier question about the best version of Kohntarkosz I ever heard ?

The bootleg is on the world-renowned 'Kisses Deluxe' (Kiss No.11) label and Kohntarkosz is 33mins32. Claims to be recorded at Reims, France in Mars (March May ? ! My French is pitiful haha) 2nd, 1976.

The sound quality is all over the shop but it really adds to the tension ! Surely not the same as the 7th Records release ? !

Haha... nothing like some old name dropping, first name basis too . It doesn't surprise about Yoshida people as prolific as him usually take that approach on all aspects of their lives.

Can across this album yesterday and have played it over once so far.

Kousokuya - 1st

From first listen it seems quite good, I have heard it site as on pare with Fush*tsusha work so this intreged me. Have you heard any of their material what do you think?

I heard a few songs a while back, but at the time didn't hit me as overly special, so no extensive research was undertaken. Will have to give them another try sometime since you recommend them. Yes swingZeuhl could be a nice reference, though I have heard them sited as Japanese Klezmer-Bulgarian-Punk-Jazz band with is a bit of mouth full

This is a nice litte page discussing their two albums in english, goes into a little detail of the meanings behind the compositions which is quite interesting.

www.cicala-mvta.com/discoenglish.shtml

Also another interesting thought, there is a Ruins DVD out at the moment (maybe out of stock for the meantime), which features CICALA MVTA. One seconded... it is called Let's Dance With Irregular Rhythms, and was brought out on Magaibutsu label which also released that Koenji Hyakkei. Do you know this DVD?

Yukorin wrote: Caught the Boredoms once here an' it was a mind-blower of a show ! Rather not go into detail on this as one was off ones tits that night an' did some things I wanna forget... Bear in mind B V that Osaka is a huge city ! 3 million odd (factor in the male population still leaves a lot of eye-candy) And there must be the odd record shop knockin' around Incidentally, I read somewhere that they can't decide if Tokyo has 12 million or 30 million residents. Quite a discrepancy

good luck with that.


I will definately have to keep the Boredoms in mind. I also would love to see Acid Mothers Temple live, I have seen lots of footage and they are just amazing. I will have to see if I can make my way down to Tokyo sometime though as it seems like the place to be.... for many reasons

Sounds like an excellent place to be in prog-wise (and non prog-wise as well...)

Don't worry about being out of depth, your have a great knowledge of this kind of music. It is not every day you run into another people who likes The Flying Luttenbachers. Also I'm sure there is much you can teach us about the Japanese scene.

With Japan it is a long shot but I am hoping to make it there, it would be Osaka. How is Osaka for the concerts and purchase of albums?