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E-Dub 
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
 Topic: Audiovisions vs Drastic Measures vs VCPosted: July 28 2006 at 20:00 |
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Man, oh man!!! Does that bring back memories. I think MTV world premiered that video and I hadn't heard about Walsh's departure. Since Walsh's and Elefante's voices are similar, I thought it was Steve singing. Imagine my surprise when their little curly haired dude pops up.
Thanks for taking me down memory lane. You've got to love those 80's special effects. E |
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Masque
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Joined: April 01 2006 Status: Offline Points: 808 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:57 |
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Take a look at this E Dub >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6d4tLDsH6M&search=play%20the%20game%20tonight
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E-Dub
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:41 |
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It's worth having....despite Elefante's blazing blue outfit.
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Masque
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:37 |
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$20 is a bargain I think
 I may have to look into preserving my copy on DVD I think ... the years are starting to show
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E-Dub
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:32 |
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Yeah. Basically the video converted. Found it on ebay and paid around $20 for it.
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Masque
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:31 |
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E-Dub
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:28 |
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I was able to get that Omaha show on DVD. I like it; however, curious to know how much was left out. A lot of VC on there, plus the usual staples and some surprises ("Mysteries & Mayhem" for one). I thought "No One Together" was a highlight.
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Masque
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:26 |
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I saw the Omaha concert you are talking about ... I still have it on VHS the concert is great but the Audio quality let it down I think (far too much high end and hardly any bass). John Elefante did a pretty good job and Kansas played well also. I remember when I got that video when it came out how much I wished Walsh was still in the band, but looking back now John Elafante did do a fine job it must have been very hard to try and fill the shoes of Steve Walsh
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Garion81
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 16:50 |
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^ Agreed but you know what so does Warren Ham. I thought if Lynn Meredith and John Bolton decided to leave Proto-Kaw that guy could take both of their places.
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E-Dub
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 16:34 |
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Elefante did admit to not being a good keyboardist live; so, that's why they brought on Warren Ham. Dude's got a good voice, though.
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Garion81
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 16:31 |
I have not but I did see them that year (the last time until 2004) at the Universal Amphitheater in LA. I am not sure if that was later or earlier in the tour. He did not appear to be a lead singer but then again neither did Walsh. But they made John be up front on this tour and Robby was a side person.
John's biggest problem was he was not as good as Walsh on Keys and that forced him to stand out front. He was very young I think 22-23 that tour so it is really inexpiereince. . His voice is way better now.
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E-Dub
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 16:12 |
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Have you seen the video of their performance in Omaha, NE on the Vinyl Confessions tour? Elefante clearly looks uncomfortable when out from behind keyboards.
E iTunes: "Right Away" from Vinyl Confessions |
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Garion81
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 16:04 |
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I go for AudioVisons again. The complete band has always sounded better to me than when it fragmented although Fair Exchange, Crossfire, Chasing Shadows and Windows are fantastic songs. John Elelphante is a fine singer but he lacked the experience and depth of Steve Walsh. Drastic Measure No Robby, No Steve and barley any Livgren. Some of the songs were OK like End of the Age but starting with this one through In the Spirit of things are big letdowns to me.
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E-Dub
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 15:55 |
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I enjoy all three; however, Walsh's vocals are simply too amazing to overlook. In his prime, it was hard to top him. I had to go with Audio Visions.
Now, Vinyl Confessions is a darn fine album, if I may say so. Just might have to load that one up on my iTunes here. E |
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WaywardSon
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 15:49 |
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Well, Livgren became a Christian on Audiovisions, so I thought I would put these three together.
I havenīt heard Drastic Measures, but most people tell me it isnīt that great. Audiovisions was a bit like a ship without a captain, so Vinyl Confessions gets my vote (some great songs on there)
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