A big hand for the MELLOTRON !! |
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pirkka
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 05:02 | |||||||
Actually I believe you more than Amazon. The book is listed there under Samagato name.
I was just joking anyway.
Pirkka
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 05:21 | |||||||
Of course, as a Tron-maniac, I own this wonderful book, loaded with interesting facts and plesant stories by its owners and users, a wide range of musicians, especially Rick Wakeman is fun to read !
There are also some intereresting sites about Mellotrons for example with all singles and albums featuring The Mighty Tron and misunderstandings about the Mellotron. When I am back at home (I am on my work now ), I will give you more details or in the meantime perhaps others will do, a certain Pierreoliver seem to know a bit more about the Mighty Tron than the usual visitor here ... !
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Philéas
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 06:01 | |||||||
I think someone has recently started to manufacture Mellotrons again,
real ones, not copies. I don't have any website address though, but I
can try to look if you're interested.
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pirkka
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 07:16 | |||||||
Just listenet to The Enid and their epic Song of Fand (live at the Hammersmith Odeon 1979). This sounds to me like a Concerto for mellotron but there is no tron mentioned in the credits. As you guys seem to know all, tell me, is there a tron in this performance or not?
Pirkka
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Jim Garten
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 07:20 | |||||||
That's correct, but they're not to be called mellotrons any more (Streetley Electronics lost the right to use the name, apparently), I did know what they're called now... but I've forgotten In addition to these, a German company is making a digital version called the Memotron: Much smaller, much lighter, much more reliable & apparently contains samples of all the original tapes... but will it sound the same, eh? Personal favorite Mellotron track? Seven Stones by Genesis - the deceptively simple understated closing section is guaranteed to melt me into a drooling puddle every time - Lovely! Edited by Jim Garten - July 28 2006 at 07:21 |
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Philéas
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 07:31 | |||||||
I know the Memotron, but I saw a pic from the NAMM show this year, where some guy presented a newly manufactured Mellotron, with the right name and everything. I'll try to find it again. |
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Joolz
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 08:07 | |||||||
Mellotron Mk VI The Mellotron Mk VII Website is HERE |
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Philéas
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 08:15 | |||||||
Thank you Joolz! It was exactly the site I was referring to!
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Jim Garten
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 10:51 | |||||||
Excellent, Joolz -
I WANT ONE! |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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A B Negative
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 11:27 | |||||||
Fans of the 'tron sound should have a listen to Mellotropica by Syn (not to be confused with The Syn who feature Chris Squire).
It's very much in the style of 70s Berlin-school electronica (Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze etc) and appears on his album Skyline.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 13:11 | |||||||
In The Court Of The Crimson King Mellotron Mark II: |
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pierreolivier
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:08 | |||||||
Thanks for the compliment Erik!You know a lot about it too.
Yes,Mellotrons were used a lot not only in prog field but in pop songs as well.Elton John used it in a lot of his 70's albums(the song "Daniel" with mellotron flute come to mind),Abba used it alot too before Benny Andersonn got his hand on a GX-1.David Bowie used it a lot on early recordings(Space Odditty)and use a Chamberlin on his "Low"album and others songs like "Ashes to Ashes"
The Brit-pop scene of the 90's bring back the Mellotron to it's glory.Bands like Oasis,Ocean Colour Scene,Mansun,Paul Weller,Pulp and The Charlatans used it a lot on theirs albums.Paul Weller actually own the old Steve Hackett black Novatron M400 and Noel Gallagher of Oasis own 2 machines,a Mark II SFX with musical tapes and a Mark VI.
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:28 | |||||||
Indeed, Pierreolivier, the return of the giant Mellotron in the Nineties, I also read that The Red Hot Chili Peppers used it too !
About David Bowie: in my opinion there are two versions of Space Oddity, one with organ and one with Mellotron.
By the way, I own a bootleg DVD on which David Bowie himself plays on the Chamberlin.
About my photos from the Mellotron M400 I made: Tony R will help me to publish these photos, I hope you will be able to see it Sunday evening or Monday. Edited by erik neuteboom - July 28 2006 at 17:29 |
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blazko
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:55 | |||||||
Great instrument isn't it ? :):)
DJs should learn from giants like Emerson... Just a piece of tape and eight seconds of a sample could make a sound unforgetable... We'll never forget you... mellotron...:):) |
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 18:02 | |||||||
Emerson hated the Mellotron (because it caused unemployement for classical musicians) but recently I noticed a picture from early ELP with a Mellotron M400 on stage .. .. did he ever use it while being in ELP (he did in The Nice)?
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pierreolivier
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 18:15 | |||||||
Yes,ELP used it for 2 or 3 shows during the Trilogy tour in 1972.It was played by Greg Lake and was used for some sounds on "Abbandon's Bolero".The Greg Lake website use to have a photo of these shows where you clearly see the M400 in the background but they removed it.Apparently, the M400 caught fire after a couple shows and they deicided to remove it.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 18:23 | |||||||
The Mellotron caught fire ... incredible story, it reminds me of the early Genesis Mellotron that stopped just before a show. Tony Banks was desperate but finally a roadie removed the motor from of a dust cleaner to the Mellotron and ... end good, all good, the Mellotron worked again !
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micky
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 18:56 | |||||||
hahahha.... roadies... the unappreciated powers behind the thrones... |
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ldlanberg
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 23:29 | |||||||
It gets a big hand from me! Apparently the mellotron was conceived to mimick, perfectly, the sounds of an orchestra playing. That was the intention. But it couldn't simulate a real orchestra, perfectly.
Instead, it put out sounds quite different from a 'real' orchestra. Creative rock musicians capitalized on this difference.
Now, I'm not the biggest Tony Banks fan in the world. But Banks (Genesis) knew how to make the mellotron sound like something really big. Reference: Intro to "Watcher of the Skies" and, especially, many sections of A Trick of the Tail.
Compared to other mellotron players of the day, Banks' stuff did not simply sound like a person playing keys of the instrument -- it actually sounded like the entire sky crashing to the earth, then reforming again. That's what music is all about.
I'm surprised Tony's name is not as synonymous with the mellotron as, say, The Moody Blues' name is.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 29 2006 at 04:30 | |||||||
A few years ago I read an article in a keyboard magazine, it told about Tony Banks his technique. The author was very positive about Tony Banks, he said Tony is not so omnipresent and self-indulgent like Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman but the way he plays both Hammond and Mellotron was on a very high level in the Gabriel-Genesis-era, that is a huge compliment
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