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WaywardSon 
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 Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:13 |
 Masque wrote:
I have my own top 6 and Rush are in it ! it does at times seem like people still think the prog world is flat once you step outside Europe you fall over the edge .. well its not flat unless you like it being flat ... but wouldn`t that thinking be limiting and some what anti progressive ? 
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You fall over the edge and land in South America. Then you realize Rush, like Kansas, are in the super prog category!
Edited by WaywardSon - July 24 2006 at 16:14
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:17 |
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Well, WaywardSon, the Brasilian crowd delivered a great progrock carnival atmosphere on the Live In Rio DVD, very emotional to witness how happy progheads can be while enjoying Rush for the first time in their country!
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WaywardSon
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:22 |
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I was actually at the show they did before Rio (in Porto Alegre) What memories!!
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:24 |
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Was that the show in the rain?
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OpethGuitarist
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:32 |
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Definitely should be. One of the most influential bands, I put them over a majority of the bands considered in the "big 5"
My view on prog is more or less like this.
Jimi Hendrix may have been the first great guitar player, but that doesn't make him the all time best (and he certainly is not).
I feel the same with many old prog bands, that while good and even
excellent, that doesn't necessarily give them a passage to eternity as
best ever.
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back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums
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Liquid Len
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:34 |
alan_pfeifer wrote:
I've always considered them top-tier material. I don't see how Rush aren't as influential as other bands. |
Because they're not prog?
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Can you tell me where my country lies?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:37 |
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Most influential? Doubtful. And thanks God for that! Or rather, thanks Goddess.
Edited by BaldFriede - July 24 2006 at 16:38
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 BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:43 |
OpethGuitarist for President !
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BebieM
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:09 |
Rush is a "good" band, nothing special though or at least not to my taste.
Soft Machine on the other hand should be among the big bands 
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Liquid Len
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:12 |
I like Rush, I like them a lot, I have all their albums from Rush to Exit Stage Left and they're all at least very good some are excellent.
However Prog they are definitely NOT.
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Can you tell me where my country lies?
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stonebeard
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:16 |
^ Oh come on! Overall, sure they're not prog. But in the mid-late 70s, they did make hard prog influenced rock. Simple as that. Symphonic like Genesis/Yes? No, but it was there, for however short a time.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:21 |
If Rush was not progressive rock between 1977 and 1983 we have to close this site immediately  ...
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WaywardSon
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Location: Brazil
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:34 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Was that the show in the rain? |
Yes, the same one!
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:44 |
I read about it, very heavy rain showers, like on Woodstock 1969 ("stop that rain")!
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Zac M
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:50 |
BebieM wrote:
Soft Machine on the other hand should be among the big bands
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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MajesterX
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 18:41 |
Liquid Len wrote:
I like Rush, I like them a lot, I have all their albums from Rush to Exit Stage Left and they're all at least very good some are excellent.
However Prog they are definitely NOT. |
your serious? have you ever Listened to Hemispheres? Cygnus C-1? 2112??? You can't seriously say those songs are not prog! 2112 is as much prog as Close to the Edge. Of couse they should be in the Super Prog category. Oh, yeah, it does NOT matter what so ever where the band comes from. It's like not adding Opeth or POS into the Prog Metal Greats genre because they're not American. Prejudice.
Edited by MajesterX - July 24 2006 at 18:46
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E-Dub
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 20:49 |
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All those who say Rush aren't prog are basing their stance on what? Because they haven't had a 10+ minute epic since 1981? If it's because of other reasons, I'd certainly like to know.
They have just as much right to be in the super category as any band.
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Aaron
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 21:03 |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 21:17 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
If Rush was not progressive rock between 1977 and 1983 we have to close this site immediately ... |
Yea, you might not have a taste for them but to call them not progressive? Why because they didn't have a mellotron.
I agree with previous posters that their late start probably has kept them out of the big five recognition even though their material, popularity, and influence clearly give them acceptance.
I disagree with you erik when you said theyre the only band that can compete with the giants though.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Arsillus
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 21:19 |
What an excellent idea. This injustice should have been rectified long ago! 
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Can we put Rush in the super prog category?
