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erik neuteboom 
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 Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:21 |
If Rush was not progressive rock between 1977 and 1983 we have to close this site immediately  ...
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stonebeard
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:16 |
^ Oh come on! Overall, sure they're not prog. But in the mid-late 70s, they did make hard prog influenced rock. Simple as that. Symphonic like Genesis/Yes? No, but it was there, for however short a time.
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Liquid Len
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:12 |
I like Rush, I like them a lot, I have all their albums from Rush to Exit Stage Left and they're all at least very good some are excellent.
However Prog they are definitely NOT.
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Can you tell me where my country lies?
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BebieM
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 17:09 |
Rush is a "good" band, nothing special though or at least not to my taste.
Soft Machine on the other hand should be among the big bands 
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:43 |
OpethGuitarist for President  !
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:37 |
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Most influential? Doubtful. And thanks God for that! Or rather, thanks Goddess.
Edited by BaldFriede - July 24 2006 at 16:38
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 BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Liquid Len
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:34 |
 alan_pfeifer wrote:
I've always considered them top-tier material. I don't see how Rush aren't as influential as other bands. |
Because they're not prog?
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OpethGuitarist
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:32 |
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Definitely should be. One of the most influential bands, I put them over a majority of the bands considered in the "big 5"
My view on prog is more or less like this.
Jimi Hendrix may have been the first great guitar player, but that doesn't make him the all time best (and he certainly is not).
I feel the same with many old prog bands, that while good and even
excellent, that doesn't necessarily give them a passage to eternity as
best ever.
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back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:24 |
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Was that the show in the rain?
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WaywardSon
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:22 |
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I was actually at the show they did before Rio (in Porto Alegre) What memories!!
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:17 |
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Well, WaywardSon, the Brasilian crowd delivered a great progrock carnival atmosphere on the Live In Rio DVD, very emotional to witness how happy progheads can be while enjoying Rush for the first time in their country!
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WaywardSon
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:13 |
Masque wrote:
I have my own top 6 and Rush are in it ! it does at times seem like people still think the prog world is flat once you step outside Europe you fall over the edge .. well its not flat unless you like it being flat ... but wouldn`t that thinking be limiting and some what anti progressive ? 
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You fall over the edge and land in South America. Then you realize Rush, like Kansas, are in the super prog category!
Edited by WaywardSon - July 24 2006 at 16:14
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:12 |
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I've always considered them top-tier material. I don't see how Rush aren't as influential as other bands.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:08 |
"Not even in the big 20 for me" ... ..!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:05 |
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I'd rather put Gong into the super prog category. some of the very best prog musicians played in that band
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 15:56 |
Funny to notice that since I became a Rush fan, this band still succeeds to evoke totally opposite opinions as you can read in the reactions till so far. Lots of progheads are very positive and even sheer euphoric, others seem to take the opportunity to release some venom and sarcasm, it's all between hail and nail  ... !
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Liquid Len
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 15:37 |
Rush...Prog?
Oh don't make me laugh.....no don't you're killing me!
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sm sm
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 15:32 |
When they are "more faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings at a single bound" then Rush or any other band can be labeled as "Superprog".
Any progressive rock band that continues to tough it out, well knowing they are not going to sell a lot of cds through playing this music today, and does not sell out, like Genesis, or a lot of bands that came after the prog heyday and continued play this unfashionable music are "superprog" bands in my book.
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dralan
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 15:24 |
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I love Rush as much as the next guy, but I cant say I'd place them in the 'super prog' category along with Yes, Genesis etc. I was a huge Rush fan in their heyday and seen them 4 times from '78-'81. I know there is alot of people here who like their later material, but to me it is very uninspired and unfocused. Rush may have had some prog elements to their music, but Ive always seen them as something like thinking mans hard-rock power trio, not full blown progressive.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 15:17 |
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I think the overall quality of RUSH's releases through the years is totally awesome, and in this field they beat GENESIS, YES and even KING CRIMSON, though I enjoy KC's music more, and I think it's more imaginative. Still, they are one of the great bands, though they started quite late, wasn't their first album out 1974? Their music also started to gain progressive elements little later, when the first generation of classic prog started to fade out.
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Can we put Rush in the super prog category?
