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Posted: July 11 2006 at 01:31

Mine is:

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Posted: July 12 2006 at 17:44

IONA : all their albums are good, especially 'Beyond these shores'

Not prog but I think EVA CASSIDY (RIP) deserves a mention : she was equally gifted in playing blues, jazz and pop.

I think the best female vocals are in :

folk/country (CLAVETO ARNEODO (from LI TROUBAIRES DI COUMBOSCURO), MADDY PRIOR, who has a brilliant solo career, MAIRE BRENNAN, JACQUI MCSHEE, SANDY DENNY, LINDA RONSTADT, EMMYLOU HARRIS, LUCINDA WILLIAMS, JONI MITCHELL)

black music [soul, gospel, Mbalax, vocal jazz] (ARETHA FRANKLIN, RANDY CRAWFORD, BETTY SWANN, CANDI STATON, ROBERTA FLACK, VIVIANE N'DOUR, MAVIS STAPLE, MAHALIA JACKSON, BILLIE HOLIDAY)

pop/rock (ANNIE LENNOX, ALANIS MORRISETTE, DEBORAH HARRY, NENA, DOLORES O'RIORDAN, BONNIE TYLER, TOYAH WILCOX, TORI AMOS, KATE BUSH, CHRISTINE MCVIE, JANIS JOPLIN)

world (HUONGH TANH, GLORIA ESTEFAN, CESARIA EVORA, LILA DOWNS)

"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)

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Posted: July 12 2006 at 18:37

Plenty of great female voices in prog folk: Pentangle's Jacqui Mc Shee is fantastic and new group Faun Fables is great as well. Canterbury band National Health's Amanda Parsons (only the debut) hasn't been mentioned yet.

Other favorites: first Curved Air. Then the rest: Spirogyra, Pierrot Lunaire(on Gudrun), Comus, Trees, Kate Bush, Babe Ruth (and sometimes Renaissance).

Edited by Rocktopus - July 12 2006 at 18:40

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Posted: July 12 2006 at 19:45

lucas wrote:

Not prog but I think EVA CASSIDY (RIP) deserves a mention : she was equally gifted in playing blues, jazz and pop.

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Posted: July 12 2006 at 21:48

ars nova for me

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Posted: July 14 2006 at 01:47

Art Bears fan over her. Not all female band, but definitely their strength come from Dagmar Krause; she is the best singer on both genres.

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Posted: July 14 2006 at 03:30

cuncuna wrote:

Art Bears fan over her. Not all female band, but definitely their strength come from Dagmar Krause; she is the best singer on both genres.

And Georgie Born (cello) and Lindsay Cooper (woodwind instruments) were members of the Art Bears too, so in fact three women in that band.

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Posted: July 14 2006 at 03:57

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Soon will be here, outstanding band.

Iván

I'm looking forward to here that stuff. I wonder what kind of sh*t they can play

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Posted: July 14 2006 at 06:30

philippe wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Soon will be here, outstanding band.

Iván

I'm looking forward to here that stuff. I wonder what kind of sh*t they can play

Judging the inside by looking at the outside is what we call "prejudices" Philippe !

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Posted: July 14 2006 at 06:47

lucas wrote:

philippe wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Soon will be here, outstanding band.

Ivбn

I'm looking forward to here that stuff. I wonder what kind of sh*t they can play

Judging the inside by looking at the outside is what we call "prejudices" Philippe !

Philippe must have been thinking that they are only good in bed and kitchen!

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Posted: July 14 2006 at 07:38

lucas wrote:

philippe wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Soon will be here, outstanding band.

Iván

I'm looking forward to here that stuff. I wonder what kind of sh*t they can play

Judging the inside by looking at the outside is what we call "prejudices" Philippe !

the "aesthetic" of the outside really sucks, both are combined, the inside can't be better because the outside reveals bad tastes.

Edited by philippe - July 14 2006 at 07:40

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Posted: July 14 2006 at 13:31

Phillippe it's obvious you haven't heard them, most of them are classically trained as singers, they play Gothic (Real Gothic or late Medieval, not that thing called Goth) and Renaissance music.

They have some of the best voices I ever heard and the aesthetics of their music is incredible as well as the elaborate complexity of their vocal work. Some of them play instruments in which they have been classicaly trained and even one of them is a recognized writter.

None of them is a top model or an ignorant beauty, this photo has been digitally altered by the label and I see nothing wrong if some of them are beautiful and intelligent. And I don't see why the aesthetics in the outside suck, they are all dressed in black in a computer generated forest.

They have at least the same right to be here as Fairport Convention but if I haven't added them is for the lack of Rock component not for lack of quality because they have more than enough quality and skills.

Better listen them before questioning their abbility as musicians.

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Posted: July 14 2006 at 13:37

ivansfr0st wrote:

lucas wrote:

philippe wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

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Soon will be here, outstanding band.

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[IMG]style="WIDTH: 41px; HEIGHT: 37px" height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle> I'm looking forward to here that stuff. I wonder what kind of sh*t they can play

Judging the inside by looking at the outside is what we call "prejudices" Philippe !

Philippe must have been thinking that they are only good in bed and kitchen! [IMG]height=17 alt=Angry src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>[IMG]height=17 alt=Confused src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>[IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>[IMG]height=17 alt=Clap src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" width=18 align=absMiddle>[IMG]height=17 alt=Star src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

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I have a joke about that. I don't like it, but a joke is a joke. So... A man and a woman are in a very passionated mood. They go to the bedroom, kissing and throuing thing as they pass. She looks at him and says: "Make me feel like a woman". He looks at her, slowly takes his shirt of, and then extend the shirt towards her and says: "Well, wash this".

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Posted: July 14 2006 at 21:55

philippe wrote:

lucas wrote:

philippe wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Soon will be here, outstanding band.

Iván

Judging the inside by looking at the outside is what we call "prejudices" Philippe !

the "aesthetic" of the outside really sucks, both are combined, the inside can't be better because the outside reveals bad tastes.

I've seen a lot of horrible covers with good music inside.

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Posted: July 15 2006 at 07:09

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Better listen them before questioning their abbility as musicians.

That's the main problem with Philippe : he judges an album by its cover or by the music's label (neo-prog or metal-prog = sh*t for him) even before having listened to its content. And everything that isn't weird isn't prog for him. I respect his tastes in prog (electronic, krautrock, indo-rock) : I don't give my opinion on the albums he suggests to listen to if I haven't listened to them, but unfortunately this respect isn't reciprocal

Remember, Philippe, that "l'habit ne fait pas le moine" (clothes don't make the man).

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Posted: July 15 2006 at 07:32

Isn't this Mediævel Babes picture meant ironic? Or do they all actually want to look like the singer in Nightwish?

Listened to some streams, and if they're anything to go by, they're easy listening 'relaxation' versions of folk-and mediaval songs, has as little to do in Progarchives as Secret Garden.

Edited by Rocktopus - July 15 2006 at 10:49

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Posted: July 15 2006 at 07:33

Metal prog is self indulgent music for little heads. Art has to give me the appetite to live and experiment life... metal just gives me an image of obscenity, a destruction of the aesthetic and the victory of false musical manifestations guided by the cult of money and low instincts. It's the conformity of the worst. Neo-prog exists but not in metal territory.

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Posted: July 15 2006 at 08:30

so..... with that out of the way...

who wants to talk about how great Ars Nova is? hahaha

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Posted: July 15 2006 at 15:15

philippe wrote:

Metal prog is self indulgent music for little heads. Art has to give me the appetite to live and experiment life...

Phillippe, you know I'm not aProg Metal fan, as a fact I like some metal bands and a few Prog Metal ones, but something may not give YOU the appetite to life and expériment life but can give OTHERS this appetite.

I respect your point of view and partially agree with it, that's why I don't buy many Prog Metal albums (POS is outstanding IMO and Fantomas is excellent), but the rest of the people are entitled to their personal taste also.

This is art, not an execat science.

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Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:35

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Metal prog is self indulgent music for little heads. Art has to give me the appetite to live and experiment life... metal just gives me an image of obscenity, a destruction of the aesthetic and the victory of false musical manifestations guided by the cult of money and low instincts. It's the conformity of the worst. Neo-prog exists but not in metal territory.

Parameters... we need parameters. I would like to say the same thing about any band on any genre that sticks to the definition of the respective label. So, ELP like are self indulgent bands; Italian prog are self indulgent bands, Krautrock and Krautrock like are self indulgent. All of them can be pointed, if they match a certain criteria. I can think about a lot of prog bands that use that Baroque/Rock/Jazz mixture, with Hammond solos over a repetitive bass sequence, usually on somekind of a weird tempo. I can point Triumvirat and others as self indulgent on the keyboard work (I can hear them saying "what the hell, let's use those short Keith Emerson musical phrases, but let's use a flute on the left channel, to make it sound like something different). So, the self indulgent commentary can give us enough to write a book. I think I'm self indulgent, just listening to prog and convincing myself about how it is a wise choice, for prog is the best music la la la; now, I'm suddenly interested in Tujiko Noriko.

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