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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2006 at 10:06
Originally posted by Joolz Joolz wrote:

I owned Something Wicked This Way Comes on vinyl, but apart from Raindown and the title track I can't remember much about it except I didn't really connect much with it. Was this album typical? 


This is the only Enid release I own (although I own the CD re-release). I didn't connect much with it at first myself, but with more listens I find myself appreciating them more and more (although I'll agree with Trouserpress that the cheese quotient can be on the higher side). The vocals don't bother me all that much, but then again, I'm not familiar with the rest of their output.

To my ears, it's very romantic-era classical influenced. It's like Brahms meets prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2006 at 12:55
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Joolz Joolz wrote:

I owned Something Wicked This Way Comes on vinyl, but apart from Raindown and the title track I can't remember much about it except I didn't really connect much with it. Was this album typical? 


No, this album was nothing like their 70's output at all. 'Something wicked..' is the one Enid album I still dont get on with. It was their first to include vocals, not their strongest conponant, although 'The Spell' which did have vocals was a much better album.

I would go with 'In the Region of the summer stars' 'Airee Fairee Nonesense' and 'Six Pieces' It helps if you like instrumental, symphonic prog. A liking for classical music would help too. They are a very strange band, and not everyones cup of tea.
    


Unless the old brainbox is playing tricks on me again, I seem to recall they used to be based in a commune somewhere in Suffolk, and my copy of Something Wicked was made privately by them, and I ordered it directly from the band. Only several years later did it finally get released by a traditional record company.

Thanks for the advice. I do like classical music and Symphonic Prog though I often find modern instrumental music to be unsatisfying and lacking in focus. Might give them another try though ....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2006 at 13:09
Originally posted by Joolz Joolz wrote:


Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Joolz Joolz wrote:

I owned Something Wicked This Way Comes on vinyl, but apart from Raindown and the title track I can't remember much about it except I didn't really connect much with it. Was this album typical? 


No, this album was nothing like their 70's output at all. 'Something wicked..' is the one Enid album I still dont get on with. It was their first to include vocals, not their strongest conponant, although 'The Spell' which did have vocals was a much better album.

I would go with 'In the Region of the summer stars' 'Airee Fairee Nonesense' and 'Six Pieces' It helps if you like instrumental, symphonic prog. A liking for classical music would help too. They are a very strange band, and not everyones cup of tea.
    
Unless the old brainbox is playing tricks on me again, I seem to recall they used to be based in a commune somewhere in Suffolk, and my copy of Something Wicked was made privately by them, and I ordered it directly from the band. Only several years later did it finally get released by a traditional record company.Thanks for the advice. I do like classical music and Symphonic Prog though I often find modern instrumental music to be unsatisfying and lacking in focus. Might give them another try though ....


I think you're right aout the commune. The band themselves were formed at a school for gifted, but 'troubled' youngsters. RJG was an older boy from the school. He returned to visit and heard the rest of the band rehearsing. He liked what he heard and worked with them from then on - in numerous forms.

Did you ever hear RJG's solo album 'The fall of Hyperion'?? I've never heard it, and it's difficult to get your hands on.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2006 at 14:37
My favorite album is The Six Pieces Thumbs Up ! While watching the wonderful The Enid site, I noticed that some remastered CD albums contain re-arranged/re-recorded songs, reading the reviews on this site, not everybody is pleased with this. In my opinion the LP version of In The Region Of The Summer Stars is superior to the remastered version, what do you think about this?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2006 at 17:59
Kudos to everyone for keeping the thread going, I was sure it would drift away from the main page!
 
The Enid are surely an acquired taste as Blacksword and some others have stated, a love and appreciation of Romantic period music helps, but isn't exactly necessary. One could say the Enid are closer to Liszt or Holst or Mahler than any rock band. Some of the later albums, like "Seed and the Sower," are more difficult but equally rewarding experiences.
 
I haven't heard "In the Region..." yet, but I will get it very soon, along with hopefully all of their albums!
 
Blacksword's also right about the commune, that's how the band formed, even though RJG had already began working on a career for Charisma. He wanted the Enid to be on that label, but Charisma wouldn't sign them. The Enid were planning to do a "Voyage of the Acolyte" project, that Steve Hackett became interested and developed upon, as far as I know of. The Enid were on Harvest labels, but they screwed them in more than one way. Pye then signed them, but became defunct, so the band just created their own label, which is probably the best thing they could have done. Too bad Francis Lickerish left though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2006 at 03:53
     I had a piece of theirs in memory from the early eighties, on a cassette but later lost, but no idea who had done it. My brother vaguely remembered the name Enid, and we spent 6 months looking for it, until I found it on the Internet...it was "The Punch and Judy Man", from "Six Pieces", a brilliant neo-classical burner. We were even more shocked to see it was from 81, that good progressive was even happening then. Since then I've acquired "Summer Stars" and "Aerie-Fairy", and although it goes against my normal aesthetic, being too steeped in Romantic Classical, it's fascinating in that it's so well played and orchestrated, few bands can pull that off so elegantly, that a small rock ensemble sounds like an orchestra. "Six Pieces" is hard to find, but check it out, it's amazing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2006 at 12:33
Well, if what I have read is correct then it is infact RJG who got screwed, not BJH. After all, BJH became a hugely popular band in Europe, can't say the same for the Enid...[/QUOTE]
 
Godfrey came up very late with his demands, he should've known better about business-terms, you know... it really looked like "well, NOW BJH are BIG, see if I can get money". Him saying that "you have to take a tiger by the tail" is very revealing, guy... he could have had it in another way I believe, it was rather unfair the way he handled it... I think it was justice that he lost the case though in some respects the judges said he was right, see, BJH 1984 had got very,very little to do with the band / music of the early days...
I'm rather with Woolly Wolstenholme who suffered a nervous breakdown then( and never got "rich" with BJH cause he left the band just when things started gettin' BIG ), having to fear to lose the last piaster saved, y'know ?Ouch
Nonetheless: NOTHING against the Enid !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2006 at 12:56

Just to put in a good word for THE ENID's last studio album "White Goddess", released in 1998. If you like the 1970s THE ENID albums, you will probably be pleased with "White Goddess". It's more measured and not as OTT as "Aerie Faerie Nonsense" (which I like very much anyway). For anyone who has not heard THE ENID I would say it is as good a starting point as any, and for those who already know THE ENID's earlier albums, it should not disappoint.

 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2006 at 14:15
Another unusual thing about them is that they released The Spell as a vinyl album to be played at 45rpm, not 33 (better sound quality being the result, but it made it a double album).

My friend owns a Linn LP12 which can only play 33rpm; my Pink Triangle Anniversary plays 33 and 45. So he can't listen to it, I can!

Does anyone know of any other 45rpm albums?
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