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Mandrakeroot
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Topic: Jon Hiseman's band Posted: June 30 2006 at 04:25 |
TEMPEST is Hard Rock with Jazz and Prog arrangiaments
COLOSSEUM II is Hard Jazz Rock Proto NWOBHM
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Raff
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 04:30 |
I've heard only a few things by Tempest, and those a long time ago - while I'm much more familiar with Colosseum II - so I voted for the latter. BTW, Andrea... could you explain to me what possible connection do you find between Colosseum II and the NWOBHM? CII do not sound anything like Iron Maiden or Saxon to me... or is it the presence of the divine Gary Moore that makes you think of that (though Moore had nothing to do with the NWOBHM)?
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Sean Trane
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 04:38 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
BTW, Andrea... could you explain to me what possible connection do you find between Colosseum II and the NWOBHM? CII do not sound anything like Iron Maiden or Saxon to me... or is it the presence of the divine Gary Moore that makes you think of that (though Moore had nothing to do with the NWOBHM |
I think I now what Andrea is on about
Colo II is definitely the heaviest more metalic jazz-rock around in the 70's and while I would not really talk of NWOBHM , I could almost describe Col II as jazz metal or metal-jazz
There is only one tempest album I like, the second one is simply too hard rock
Both tempest albums are on one Cd for cheapness' sake
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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bsurmano
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 05:05 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Colo II is definitely the heaviest more metalic jazz-rock around in the 70's and while I would not really talk of NWOBHM , I could almost describe Col II as jazz metal or metal-jazz |
Good description; nothing impressive however in their releases.
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'Sundown,yellow moon, I replay the past
I know every scene by heart, they all went by so fast.....
Either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft.'
Bob Dylan
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 05:11 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
BTW, Andrea... could you explain to me what possible connection do you find between Colosseum II and the NWOBHM? CII do not sound anything like Iron Maiden or Saxon to me... or is it the presence of the divine Gary Moore that makes you think of that (though Moore had nothing to do with the NWOBHM |
I think I now what Andrea is on about
Colo II is definitely the heaviest more metalic jazz-rock around in the 70's and while I would not really talk of NWOBHM , I could almost describe Col II as jazz metal or metal-jazz
There is only one tempest album I like, the second one is simply too hard rock
Both tempest albums are on one Cd for cheapness' sake |
Ok... COLOSSEUM II is a Metal version of Ian Gillan Band..., The moody Blues is a Symphonic version of The Beatles..., The Barclay James Harvest in a The moody Blues cousins... And examples... Are infinities!!!
I'M JUST A SINGER IN A ROCK'n'ROLL BAND and my mame is JOHN BALEYCORN...
I'm not mad is only a example of THE PROG WORLD is UNIQUE!!!
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Raff
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 05:16 |
Ah, you're talking of the Ian Gillan Band of "Clear Air Turbulence" ... for a moment I thought you were referring to the band who made "Future Shock" and "Mr Universe"! However, I wouldn't use the term "metal" to describe Colo II - something more on the lines of hard-jazz-rock - although I've seen the term "jazz-metal" applied to Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Birds of Fire" (and the title-track is quite metallic indeed...)
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 30 2006 at 05:21 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
Ah, you're talking of the Ian Gillan Band of "Clear Air Turbulence" ... for a moment I thought you were referring to the band who made "Future Shock" and "Mr Universe"! However, I wouldn't use the term "metal" to describe Colo II - something more on the lines of hard-jazz-rock - although I've seen the term "jazz-metal" applied to Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Birds of Fire" (and the title-track is quite metallic indeed...) |
Ok... COLOSSEUM II is a Hard version of Ian Gillan Band... In my mind!!!
For the rest I agree with You!!!
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