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andYouandI45 
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:03 |
You guys know what makes me so mad that I could eat a living human baby?
The fact that Eddie Van Halen is credited for tapping.
It was Steve Hackett!
What makes you guys angry that is prog related?
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Deadwing12
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:07 |
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Here's a few:
Rolling Stone - declaring System of a Down 'Leaders of Prog-Metal'
- calling Les Claypol's CD messy and tuneless (bah! no taste at all!)
Refusal of Entertainment Weekly to publish review on '10,000 Days' regardless of how it reached number 1
Various other media discrepancies.... I'll have more later after some thought
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WaywardSon
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:12 |
The tapping on Eruption was insane for the time, even Jimmy Page said he thought the guy had arrived from Mars.
I don´t think Hackett was tapping like that, sorry have to disagree with you.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:13 |
 RycheMan wrote:
The tapping on Eruption was insane for the time, even Jimmy Page said he thought the guy had arrived from Mars.
I don´t think Hackett was tapping like that, sorry have to disagree with you.
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I agree....Eddie VH brought it to another level.
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GPFR
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:15 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
RycheMan wrote:
The tapping on Eruption was insane for the time, even Jimmy Page said he thought the guy had arrived from Mars.
I don´t think Hackett was tapping like that, sorry have to disagree with you.
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I agree....Eddie VH brought it to another level. |
So then shouldn't he be credited for taking it too the next level and not for creating it?
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:17 |
GPFR wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
RycheMan wrote:
The tapping on Eruption was insane for the time, even Jimmy Page said he thought the guy had arrived from Mars.
I don´t think Hackett was tapping like that, sorry have to disagree with you.
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I agree....Eddie VH brought it to another level. |
So then shouldn't he be credited for taking it too the next level and not for creating it?
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I never heard EVH being credited for inventing tapping,he just does it better.
I saw Page tap on The Song Remains the Same and wasn't impressed,I saw EVH do it live and it gave me goosebumps.
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GPFR
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:25 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
GPFR wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
RycheMan wrote:
The tapping on Eruption was insane for the time, even Jimmy Page said he thought the guy had arrived from Mars.
I don´t think Hackett was tapping like that, sorry have to disagree with you.
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I agree....Eddie VH brought it to another level. |
So then shouldn't he be credited for taking it too the next level and not for creating it?
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I never heard EVH being credited for inventing tapping,he just does it better.
I saw Page tap on The Song Remains the Same and wasn't impressed,I saw EVH do it live and it gave me goosebumps. |
I'm not dennying he's great at tapping, he is amazing, never seen him live though. (Speaking of Van Halen, David Lee Roths blue grass performance made me wanna cry it was so bad.) You've never heard EVH credited for inventing tapping? I've heard it left and right, a lot of people in my school think that he created it, and CH1 and MTV give him credit all the time. It annoys me a lot too.
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pogoowner
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 17:03 |
GPFR wrote:
(Speaking of Van Halen, David Lee Roths blue grass performance made me wanna cry it was so bad.) |
It was indeed quite horrendous. And does anyone else find his mannerisms while performing (and talking to a talk show host) to be completely annoying and ridiculous looking?
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And it might as well be raining, 'cause the sunlight hurts his eyes,
And his ears will never hear the children's cries
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Zoso
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 17:04 |
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Which song does Steve Hackett first tap on?
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Tony R
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 17:12 |
Fred Astaire was the first person I saw tapping: 
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stonebeard
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 17:21 |
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Re "tapping" : I'm sure it was "invented" hundred of years ago on a guitar or other instrument. Really, tapping a finger on a fret is not an elusive trick.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 19:03 |
Zoso wrote:
Which song does Steve Hackett first tap on? |
The Musical Box off of Nursery Cryme if I'm not mistaken.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 19:05 |
And about the EVH tapping thing, I often hear people cite him as the bringer of it into the rock format and I often correct people, who always ask, "Steve who?". I then say, "the guitarist for Genesis" and they reply, "You listen to Genesis?".
Listen to some of Hackett's tapping on songs like Mechanical Bride and you'll hear some incredible work that rivals EVH.
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Viajero Astral
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 19:29 |
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Wait, I tought the first was Hendrix in the 60's
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kebjourman
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 21:08 |
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cuncuna
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 23:32 |
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My Archinémesis; The Chainyanker...
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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WaywardSon
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 11:36 |
What yanks my chain..
Teaflax´s posts! (Just joking...sort of) 
Edited by RycheMan - June 11 2006 at 11:36
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:27 |
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I personally don't like Eddie Van Halen's Eruption, but I understand why he was given credit for tapping. When kids annoy people like me in guitar stores doing sloppy tapping, they never play The Musical Box by Genesis, they play Eruption. Maybe Hackett deserves credit for tapping, but Van Halen made tapping a household guitar technique.
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Royalist
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 16:21 |
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1."Collins destroyed Genesis"
2."Iron Maiden/Metallica/Deep Purple/Queen/every good band should be added here/is prog"
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The Wizard
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 16:24 |
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Punk gets blamed for ending prog, but it was really the music industry.
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