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    Posted: June 04 2006 at 14:01
Man, I'm a huge fan of both bassists and they are such a great inspirations... I don't know how to choose both have crafted such wonderful bass lines.
 
Let's see... This:
 
 
Rush - Freewill (Toronto Rocks) (Live) (5:44)
 
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Or This:
 
 
Yes - And You or I (35th Anniversary Tour rehearsal) (9:42)
 
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Originally posted by Antennas Antennas wrote:

Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

CHRIS SQUIRE without any doubt. Geddy's bass sound is just very high in the mix but it's all simple stuff really!
 
Ehm, did you by any chance ever tried to actually PLAY his parts?
I *did*. It brought me carpal tunnel syndrome. Confused
No simple stuff at all, though it might sound simple at times - a trademark of great playing IMHO.
 
 
 
Right, this settles it. Geddy's playing is sicker than Squire's.
 
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Originally posted by Antennas Antennas wrote:

Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

CHRIS SQUIRE without any doubt. Geddy's bass sound is just very high in the mix but it's all simple stuff really!
 
Ehm, did you by any chance ever tried to actually PLAY his parts?
I *did*. It brought me carpal tunnel syndrome. Confused
No simple stuff at all, though it might sound simple at times - a trademark of great playing IMHO.
 
Okay, I must admit: both of them are on the top of my list. Awesome players, both of them!
 
I'm not a bass player myself so I respect your oppinion. However, there was an interview recently in Classic Rock Magazine with a UK based Rush tribute band called 'Counterpoint'. The bass player said that whilst the music sounds very difficult, it is in fact very easy to play!
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Geddy's tone is nothing to sneer at; he and Alex had the best tones of Rush's career on Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures. They sound unbelievably good, in all ways, on those two.
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Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

I prefer Ged's bass playing, being punchy and up front.  At times I struggle to hear what Squire is doing, much like James Myung. 




James Myung? Is that the guy who plays bass in the band that has John LaBrie as their singer? ;-)
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Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

CHRIS SQUIRE without any doubt. Geddy's bass sound is just very high in the mix but it's all simple stuff really!
 
Ehm, did you by any chance ever tried to actually PLAY his parts?
I *did*. It brought me carpal tunnel syndrome. Confused
No simple stuff at all, though it might sound simple at times - a trademark of great playing IMHO.
 
Okay, I must admit: both of them are on the top of my list. Awesome players, both of them!

Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either
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I prefer Ged's bass playing, being punchy and up front.  At times I struggle to hear what Squire is doing, much like James Myung. 


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CHRIS SQUIRE without any doubt. Geddy's bass sound is just very high in the mix but it's all simple stuff really!
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Hmm...

I think Chris Squire's tone beats Geddy's easily, but i'll give credit to Lee for Bassin' it up, Synthin' it up, and singin' it up all at once.
 
Chris Squire's poppy tone is great though.


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Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

Les Claypool can do what both of them do, at the same time, and better.


Yeah, I saw him play bass, stamp his foot and imitate Donald Duck when they were support act for Rush in Rotterdam some 12 years ago. Did he learn to sing in the mean time? Wink
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Being that Squire is my favorite bassist the answer is easy; Fish.
 
He`s the god of prog bass, and he also sings during complex shreddin
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Lee revolutionized the way I look at rock bass playing, he's the best if you ask me.
 
I admire the fish as well, it's just Lee is way groovier.
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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Always preferred Geddy's bass playing over Squire.

And of course Geddy's not going to cite himself as THE quintessential bassist. That would appear a bit pompous on his part. So, NO, that doesn't sum up the thread.

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Agreed - Geddy would likely not cite himself as the greatest.

However, as much as I like Geddy and think he is one of the greatest all-around musicians and great bass players, I still think Squire has him beat ever so slightly.
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Squire: more stylish, more proggy has better bass tones.(Rickenbacker)

Yes - Fragile has the best bass tones  in prog scene, imo.

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Surely the first job of a bass player is to provide a rhythym for the band, an anchor so the melodies can play around on top. Well Squire not only did that but provided melody as well. On top of which the Fish brought a tone of his own and raised the prominence of Bass playing in general.
 
Geddy Lee is highly skilled at providing Rhythym but also can sound melodious. His sound is more understated but in a three piece his job is that much more important.
 
Too great bassists with much to recommend. Very hard to pick a winner even though i grew up thinking Squire was the King.
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2006 at 04:18
Now, this is quickly turning again into a "Yes vs. Rush" thread, I'm afraid. It just doesn't seem possible to discuss the individual merits of the musicians in question without starting to bash/praise their respective bands or saying that others are miles better. This is not what YYZed asked for in the opening post.

OK... rant over! Wink Let's come to the heart of the matter. Though I am a Rush fan, I'd be the first to admit that Squire was the first (at least in prog) to use the bass guitar as a lead instrument instead of as a mere accompaniment to the drums. Obviously Geddy was influenced by him, as the whole sound of post-2112 Rush was evidently influenced by Yes. Then, of course, Geddy developed his own distinctive style to go with the development of the band's style. Let's not forget that Rush are a trio, while Yes have always been a five-piece, with keyboards very much in evidence and a lead singer who only sings (except occasionally playing the acoustic guitar). For this reason I would find it difficult to say that I prefer one over the other. They're both greats, and absolutely indispensable to their respective bands.
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Points: 934 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2006 at 02:38
I agree, Squire is THE great bass player.  I'd rate Lee a close second.
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Les Claypool can do what both of them do, at the same time, and better.

Edited by Harry Hood - May 31 2006 at 23:59
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I prefer Squire....just don't overly care for Rush.  He played a very rocking solo on the Symphonic Live DVD version of Ritual and along with the rest of the song....one of the best bass performances I have seen.
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