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Cheesecakemouse
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Topic: What style of prog do you like least? Posted: May 11 2006 at 05:34 |
Basically that. Some styles take a long time to acquire, while others you know you probably won't ever bother with. I try to be open minded, but I don't think I'll ever get into Prog Metal, it's usually just so loud, some of the groups have the perception of being satanic, it has no joy in it (prove me wrong), and seems to evoke the same emotions: anger. Thats probably why I don't bother with PF's the Wall - too depressing, I loved it as a teenanger though .
It's more on principle than narrow mindedness that I don't listen to prog metal, it feels unhealthy.
But prove me wrong, I like old metal like Rush and Zep, but they are a different beast to what is considered metal today.
Well vote and choose what you don't like. Yep another negativity poll, but yet we may help and guide each other to be more open minded, or not.
Edited by Cheesecakemouse - May 11 2006 at 18:19
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erlenst
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 05:56 |
Is prog metal SATANIC ?? Please, enlighten us on this subject. I have hardly heard of a satanic prog metal band.
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Joren
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 05:57 |
Neo
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 06:31 |
I take offense to you referring to Prog Metal as satanic.
What a typical stereotype,and totally unfounded.
Could you give me some examples please?
Edited by TheProgtologist - May 11 2006 at 07:05
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Tony R
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 06:43 |
Well done Cheesie Mouse you've managed to upset the whole Prog-Metal Community.They are currently hiring a taxi and are on their way round to your place now....
I've never noticed any satanic references in Dream Theater's work or in fact any of the more popular Prog-Metal bands.
Pity really it might make them more intersting.
Prog-Metal for me,followed closely by Zheul,Kraut,Rio/Avant,Exp/Post Rock and anything else that might shatter my cosy little conservative music world.
Any resemblance The Progtologist's avatar's have to worship of the black arts are purely coincidental and incidental to the fact that he likes Black Metal and once ate a virgin....(Prog Archive's Lawyers intervened at this point)
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The Hemulen
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 06:46 |
Joren wrote:
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Seconded.
I guess it's just too far removed from what us avant-proggers are used to, eh?
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JayDee
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 06:46 |
I'm a Christian, and I dont think prog metal is satanic. Well, some bands have lyrics and images that are not in line or may agree with my beliefs, but I could care less. Black Metal/ Death Metal maybe, but not prog metal.
Well, Im really not into Kraut Rock, Canterbury, Raga Rock, but i cant say i dont like/hate them. Im into Prog metal, Jazz Rock, Art Rock, Proto prog and Symphonic prog.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 06:52 |
I don't like neo and prog metal.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 07:02 |
oliverstoned wrote:
I don't like neo and prog metal. |
same here,
but I think some progmetal is better (more inventive anyway) than most neo-prog
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 07:02 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
I take offense to you referring to Prog Metal is satanic.
What a typical stereotype,and totally unfounded.
Could you give me some examples please? |
Well, some Black Metal bands have a satanic background. And he did say "only some".
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Norbert
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 07:04 |
[QUOTE=Cheesecakemouse]. I try to be open minded, but I don't think I'll ever get into Prog Metal, it's usually just so loud, satanic (not always), it has no joy in it (prove me wrong), and seems to evoke the same emotions: anger.
That sums up pretty well my sentiments about the post.
What is satanic about Dream Theater,Pain of Salvation, Symphony X,Fates Warning,Queensryche
etc.?
This pretty stupid thread evokes far more anger than all. prog metal albums in the world together.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 07:08 |
Tony R wrote:
Any resemblance The Progtologist's avatar's have to worship of the black arts are purely coincidental and incidental to the fact that he likes Black Metal and once ate a virgin....(Prog Archive's Lawyers intervened at this point)
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For all the non Star Wars geeks my avy is Anakin Skywalker and has nothing to do with Satanism.
And about the black metal and virgin incident.........I thought we were under a gag order Tony.
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JayDee
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 07:17 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
[QUOTE=Tony R]
For all the non Star Wars geeks my avy is Anakin Skywalker and has nothing to do with Satanism.
And about the black metal and virgin incident.........I thought we were under a gag order Tony.
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I thought it was Darth Maul. ... My fave Jody avy, that one!
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Trickster F.
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 07:49 |
The topic starter is right when he says that there is not much joy in progmetal. Still, the qualities I seek in music can be found in the progmetal groups I listen to.
I voted for neo-prog, as it is the genre I can go without easily.
-- Ivan
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rockandrail
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 07:55 |
Definitely prog metal. A friend of mine gave me copies of most of Dream Theater's CDs which I managed to listen to carefully. (I mean in a quiet room with good quality HIFI headphones). I could not stand listening to the end of any of the CDs I had.
My conclusion is definitive, whatever this site's masters may claim in return: there is no prog in this. I heard noisy, repetitive, inspirationless, and not even technically great metal with some (tenous) Black Sabbath and Deep Purple reminiscences.
I gave them a second chance listening to them via loudspeakers (also goo quality). My wife, who enjoys a lot of prog bands, and children, who are playing in rock bands demanded that I lower the volume, being tired of the noise.
Galaxies away from what you can hear from bands classified in the other subgenres.
I fact, in prog metal, there is one word in excess. Like saying "Cold Heat" or "Dark light" or "Intelligent Politician"
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JayDee
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 07:59 |
^ No prog in DTs music??? No prog in metal??? I beg to disagree.
Metal has the right to be prog.
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Masque
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 08:06 |
I enjoy me prog metal
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Trickster F.
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 08:10 |
rockandrail wrote:
Definitely prog metal. A friend of mine gave me copies of most of Dream Theater's CDs which I managed to listen to carefully. (I mean in a quiet room with good quality HIFI headphones). I could not stand listening to the end of any of the CDs I had.
My conclusion is definitive, whatever this site's masters may claim in return: there is no prog in this. I heard noisy, repetitive, inspirationless, and not even technically great metal with some (tenous) Black Sabbath and Deep Purple reminiscences.
I gave them a second chance listening to them via loudspeakers (also goo quality). My wife, who enjoys a lot of prog bands, and children, who are playing in rock bands demanded that I lower the volume, being tired of the noise.
Galaxies away from what you can hear from bands classified in the other subgenres.
I fact, in prog metal, there is one word in excess. Like saying "Cold Heat" or "Dark light" or "Intelligent Politician" |
Way to go! You summed up a diverse, lush genre of music with the help of its least inspired representative!
-- Ivan
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sleeper
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 09:04 |
rockandrail wrote:
Definitely prog metal. A friend of mine gave me copies of most of Dream Theater's CDs which I managed to listen to carefully. (I mean in a quiet room with good quality HIFI headphones). I could not stand listening to the end of any of the CDs I had.
My conclusion is definitive, whatever this site's masters may claim in return: there is no prog in this. I heard noisy, repetitive, inspirationless, and not even technically great metal with some (tenous) Black Sabbath and Deep Purple reminiscences.
I gave them a second chance listening to them via loudspeakers (also goo quality). My wife, who enjoys a lot of prog bands, and children, who are playing in rock bands demanded that I lower the volume, being tired of the noise.
Galaxies away from what you can hear from bands classified in the other subgenres.
I fact, in prog metal, there is one word in excess. Like saying "Cold Heat" or "Dark light" or "Intelligent Politician" |
I dont know what you were listening to but that doesnt sound like DT to me. As far as the genre's go, I havnt found one yet that I dont like, but then I havnt heard all genres and to be honest Electronic is probably going to be the last port of call for me.
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E-Dub
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 09:50 |
With the exception of Dream Theater, I have a hard time distinguishing prog metal from heavy metal.
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