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Bastille Dude
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 17:27 |
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DEATH TO FALSE PROG!
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bhikkhu
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 17:14 |
It is true that you could say it's fake. Isn't that waht synthesised means? But
there are some sounds that you just can't get from acoustic (or acoustic
based) insruments. Would early prog have been the same without the moog,
or mellowtron? I do have to say that entirely synthesised music was
interesting as a novelty at first, but ended up not holding up over time.
There are several bands that were totally synthesised, that ended up
returning to strings, and acoustic percussion (although, this was most
prevalent in New Wave/Alternative music).
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AtLossForWords
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 11 2005
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:58 |
I doubt you will find many people on a prog website that will vote yes. Anyways, I voted no like the rest of you.
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"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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Meddler
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Joined: September 29 2005
Location: Massillon
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:57 |
Joolz wrote:
Please elaborate as to what is 'fake music'. Surely music is either
musical or it isn't. How can it be 'fake'? Or are you referring to the
sounds used to create music (eg string sounds made on a synth instead of real strings)?
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I'm reffering to keyboards in general, and to some extent eletronic music. (e.i. Frank Klepacki(not prog but electronic music), Kraftwerk, etc.) So I would be reffering to something used to create music.
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Empathy
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:50 |
Yes. Our music, especially, is extremely fake.
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Pure Brilliance:
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UnknownFlow
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Joined: April 06 2006
Location: Oxford
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:19 |
I wouldn't call synths "fake" I think electronic samples (if they were
really bad) could be described as fake by some people, but personally I
just consider any electronic instrument a different instrument
altogether and I would have them in the same competition as any
acoustic instrument. It all just depends on how good it sounds, even an
electronic imitation of an instrument that sounds rubbish in comparison
to an instrument it's trying to imitate can have it's own unique sound
that might be quite good.
EDIT: Just to elaborate on that: What i had in mind is Neil Pearts new
thing of using samples of percussion in songs, Electronic drums in the
80's sounded great because that worked with the music. Although
recently he has used Electronic samples of Percussion in songs that
previously used acoustic percussion, i.e. Xanadu and The Trees. I
personally doesnt think this works, part of the majic of Xanadu was the
atmpospherics at the beginning. But i wouldn't dismiss the samples as
being fake and unworthy of use, they are perfectly nice sounds, but
it's because of the previous recording that i'm used to that it doesn't
appeal to me as much.
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Joolz
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:19 |
Please elaborate as to what is 'fake music'. Surely music is either
musical or it isn't. How can it be 'fake'? Or are you referring to the
sounds used to create music (eg string sounds made on a synth instead of real strings)?
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R o V e R
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 13 2005
Location: India
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:06 |
stonebeard wrote:
So electric guitars, basses, keyboards, synths, electronics, and basically any production or recording of instruments is out...
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No.
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fake music
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:03 |
So electric guitars, basses, keyboards, synths, electronics, and basically any production or recording of instruments is out...
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No.
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R o V e R
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 13 2005
Location: India
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:50 |
Meddler wrote:
R o V e R wrote:
i'm so tired of stupid polls,
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I'm sorry if you think this is stupid. But you think it is, please detain yourself from posting in it.
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you are right, i shouldnt post,
(admin, - delete my post)
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akin
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Location: Brazil
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:49 |
Fake? Why? Just because the sound is not taken by the contact of two materials?
A synthesizer is like a piano, if the player press notes at random,
there will be no music at all. But if they press it in a specific
sequence, a masterpiece is made.
Fake for me is samples and remixes that pick a song already composed and played, insert some sounds and call it a new song .
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Meddler
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:08 |
R o V e R wrote:
i'm so tired of stupid polls,
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I'm sorry if you think this is stupid. But you think it is, please detain yourself from posting in it.
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R o V e R
Forum Senior Member
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Location: India
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:02 |
i'm so tired of stupid polls,
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el böthy
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 27 2005
Location: Argentina
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 14:58 |
Long before I discovered prog and all his amazing keyboards I used to think that way...not anymore!!!!
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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ANDREW
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Joined: November 21 2005
Location: Italy
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 14:53 |
Do you think that a keyboard/synth makes "fake" music?
NO.
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Meddler
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 14:42 |
Me and my friend were semi-debating about real instruments and fake ones. This was how it was, he would say a violin is real because it didn't need electricity to operate, and a keyboard/synth was. It all started about when he was saying electronic music wasn't real. What are you thoughts, PA community? Dang... I just realised this should in be in regular Polls. Please move it admins, if thats right.
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