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Tristan Mulders 
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Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
 Posted: March 04 2006 at 15:44 |
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Okay, this is exactly why I suggested a couple of weeks ago that we create a 'sticky' topic in one of the main forums and mention what bands are currently rejected per (sub)genre...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21618 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 17:58 |
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But this raises an interesting question: Should such a band which is "technically" progressive but has - in the eyes of us prog critics - not the necessary artistic ambition be accepted in the archives and then recieve bad reviews ... or should it just not be accepted? |
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 17:19 |
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I have heard some albums from them and I was surprised by the exciting keyboard work and the shifting moods so they have progressive elements. But the emphasis is on heavy guitar riffs, furious drumming and screamy vocals, that's why I can't stand listening to them for longer than a few minutes. But perverted progheads should check out this band because of the visuals ..
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PROGMAN
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VIP Member Joined: February 03 2004 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 2664 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 17:09 |
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My mate played me one of their songs, I found the singing very annoying
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ANDREW
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Joined: November 21 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 3064 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 15:19 |
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I saw them live in Milan a few years ago at the "Gods Of Metal", and trust me they are a black metal band with very very small prog elements!!! |
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Politician
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Joined: July 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 521 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 14:37 |
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[QUOTE=MikeEnRegalia] The problem is that most black metal bands use
symphonic elements to "embellish" that sound. Cradle of Filth do that quite efficiently, but I miss any serious artistic ambition in their compositions. I really enjoy listening to them once in a while though.[/ QUOTE] I think that's a good summation. Their music is often highly progressive in its execution, but in its conception is decidedly lowbrow - aimed very much at teenagers. With a different vocal style, more restrained lyrics and very different cover artwork, they would probably qualify as prog metal. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 02 2006 at 12:54 |
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The problem is that most black metal bands use symphonic elements to "embellish" that sound. Cradle of Filth do that quite efficiently, but I miss any serious artistic ambition in their compositions. I really enjoy listening to them once in a while though.
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Fede
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Joined: February 15 2006 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 216 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 12:49 |
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Really? I don't think so. |
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Empathy
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Joined: June 30 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1864 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 12:19 |
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I find them hilarious.
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Pure Brilliance:
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Drew
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Joined: June 20 2005 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 12600 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 12:12 |
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I can maybe see some elements- longer songs, interesting music passages, but I have to say no also. |
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Manunkind
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Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 2373 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 12:04 |
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[QUOTE=ANDREW]Pure black metalQUOTE] Many black metal fans would skin you alive for this. They'd sooner say Neal Morse is black metal than Cradle of Filth Very good band, though, quite theatrical and the songs are really well-structured. Does that make them prog metal? I'm not going in there.
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ANDREW
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Joined: November 21 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 3064 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 11:59 |
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Pure black metal, nothing prog in their music!!!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 02 2006 at 10:34 |
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"A little diverse" may not be enough to qualify as prog. The prog metal team voted on Cradle of Filth a couple of months ago - you can see the results here: http://www.ratingfreak.com/home/progarchives/progmetalchart. xhtml
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Fede
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Joined: February 15 2006 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 216 |
Posted: March 02 2006 at 10:13 |
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Most people think they are symphonic black metal band but if you hear them with attention you'll see it has tempo changes and it's a little diverse. Ok, the vocals are black metal style but so what? SO WHAT? |
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erik neuteboom wrote:
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