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    Posted: January 24 2006 at 08:31
  • Alan Sorrenti's first three releases (1972-1974): outstanding vocal impact! "The man who eat a moog!"
  • Riccardo Zappa: excellent instrumental works on guitar!

I'm sure these two names deserves their own place here on progarchives.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2006 at 10:53

Where are you, Andrew?

I need your contribution here...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2006 at 11:25

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The three prog releases of Alan Sorrenti (1972, 73, 74) before entering disco music (1976)!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2006 at 11:28

http://www.riccardozappa.it/

 

official Riccardo Zappa's web site with lots of information!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:24

anyone else who has listened to these two interesting artists?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:40
Not yet - but I have noted their names
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2006 at 15:32

Here i am!!!

Hi Andrea,

I have the first two albums by ALAN SORRENTI ( the Italian TIM BUCKLEY), and i find them relly impressive. He's a very talented singer!!!

I don't like the third release.

RICCARDO ZAPPA is considered one of the best Italian acoustic guitar players.

His first album, "Celestion", from 1977, is his best work, containing all instrumental tracks showing the excellent quality of Zappa's playing.

Later albums changed style, going closer to new age.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2006 at 16:07

Well, i attended a concert of Riccardo Zappa in 1996 (actually, it was a clinic where he was showing a new 12 strings guitar)... I own some of his records: "Definire significa limitare" (1996 - bought at that concert) ; "Anthakarani Swami" (1990); "Fondali - Volume decimo" (1993); "Dal vivo" (1994) and "Riccardo Zappa interpreta Johann Sebastian Bach" (1997)... I'm an acoustic guitar player and I like these albums but they're more close to works of artists like Leo Kottke, Alex De Grassi, Tommy Emmanuel, Franco Morone, Peter Finger etc... I never thought to Riccardo Zappa as a "progressive-rock artist" (anyway on this site there are so many albums and artists not exactly prog that I like as, for instance, Al Di Meola...). Personally I don't care if an album or an artist "not prog" is on this site... The most important thing is to understand what kind of music you can find in an album and if it's good or not...

By the way, sometimes ago I started a topic with a list (very far from complete, indeed) of Italian artists related to prog... I think it could be useful discuss their music on this site, so I post it again...

Bye!

  

ALAN SORRENTI (Singer-songwriter): Many people think that his first album “Aria” is a masterpiece of progressive music. I do not agree, though it’s an interesting album with vocals in the style of Tim Buckley and a long suite (in the line-up there’s Jean-Luc Ponty). The following two albums “Come un vecchio incensiere all’alba in un villaggio deserto” (1973) and “Alan Sorrenti” (1974) are less interesting. The other albums, especially from 1977 are just melodic pop.

ALBERTO FORTIS (Singer-songwriter): The first album “Alberto Fortis” (1979) is very interesting, in the line-up there’s all the PFM, lyrics are a mix of rage and poetry. Not bad also “Tra demonio e santità”, with Mauro Pagani in the line-up (1980), while the other albums are less interesting for prog-fans

ANGELO BRANDUARDI: His albums from 1975 to 1980 should be of great interest for prog-folk lovers: “Angelo Branduardi” (1974), “Alla fiera dell’Est” (1976) “La pulce d’acqua” (1978), “Cogli la prima mela” (1979) and “Gulliver, la luna e altri disegni” (1980). If you’re not familiar with this artist I suggest you to begin with the live album “Concerto” (1980), where play the musicians of Banco del Mutuo Soccorso and where you can hear some English versions of his songs (though the Italian versions are better).

EUGENIO FINARDI (Singer-songwriter): In the albums “Sugo” (1976) and “Diesel” (1977) you can hear clearly the “Area touch” in the rhythmic (Paolo Tofani, Patrizio Fariselli and Ares Tavolazzi from Area are in the line-up). Lyrics are extremely “engaged” (for instance Giai Phong on the Vietnam war and Scimmia on drugs addicition on Diesel album). Intersting also “Non gettate alcun oggetto dai finestrini” (1975), “Blitz” (1978) and “Roccando Rollando” (1979).

IVANO FOSSATI (Singer-songwriter): Former member of Delirium, his career, though not exactly “progressive”, has been successful and with high quality standard albums. I suggest to listen to “La pianta del tè” (1988) and “Macramé” (1996).

LUCIO BATTISTI (Singer-songwriter): One of the best known Italian singer-songwriter. Usually the lyrics of his songs are written by Mogol and are very poetic. In his early albums you can find in the line-up musicians of PFM, Area, Il volo and Formula 3. I suggest to listen to “Emozioni” (1970), “Umanamente uomo: il sogno” (1972) and “Il mio canto libero” (1972).

FRANCESCO GUCCINI (Singer-songwriter): In some of his albums of the seventies you can find prog arrangements, but his works are essentially  based on lyrics so, if you can’t appreciate the lyrics probably you’ll find him a little bit boring. Anyway, in the live album “Tra la via Emilia e il West” (1984), featuring, among others,  Vince Tempera (Il Volo) on keyboards and Ares Tavolazzi (Area) on bass, there are interesting new arrangements of some songs and it could be a good starting point if you would check this artist.

FABRIZIO DE ANDRE’ (Singer-songwriter):  Probably the most influent and well known Italian singer-songwriter. His live works in 1979 with PFM,  “De Andrè In concerto + PFM” Vol. 1 and 2  are two must-have. Very interesting also the eponymous album with the native American on the cover “Fabrizio De Andrè” (1981), “Creuza de mä” (1984), co-written with Mauro Pagani and sang in Genoa’s dialect, and “Anime salve” (1996), co-written with Ivano Fossati.  

 

RICCARDO (RICHARD) COCCIANTE (Singer-songwriter): The first album of this artist, “Mu” (1972), though very far from essential, is a progressive one based on keyboards. The other albums are just more or less successful collections of pop songs.

ALBERTO CAMERINI: Singer-songwriter rock oriented that released some interesting albums in the seventies for Cramps, the same label of Area, “Cenerentola e il pane quotidiano” (1976), “Gelato metropolitano” (1977) and “Comici cosmetici” (1978). Area musicians were involved in these albums and the music and lyrics are quite good, with blended elements of prog-rock and samba. The rest of his career is just electronic pop… If interested, I suggest to listen to “Camerini metropolitano” (1998), a collection of songs from 1976 to 1978. 

NOMADI (melodic-rock band): Great band, well known for their live performances (usually their concerts last at least 3 hours), but not prog. Their sound is beat, post beat, melodic rock but it can hardly be defined prog, though they made some interesting songs for “prog fans” (for instance the Italian version of Moody Blues’ “Nights In White Satin – Ho difeso il mio amore”, or their version of some Guccini’s songs, remarkable the 1974 album “I Nomadi interpretano Guccini”). If you are interested in their music but not familiar with them, I suggest to begin with their live albums “In Concerto vol. 1 and 2” (1987), “Ma che film la vita” (1992) and “Le strade, gli amici, il concerto”  (1997).

POOH (easy-pop band): Their career began almost 40 years ago and they’re still active, but they made probably only one album interesting for prog lovers, “Parsifal” (1973). It seems that in Italy in 1973 almost everyone used to play prog… The other Pooh’s albums are just beat (before 1970) or cheesy pop (after 1973). In this site you can find a similar, though less successful band, called La Bottega dell’Arte (not prog at all!). If you love La Bottega dell’Arte probably you’ll love this band… (that is not one of my favourites indeed!).

 

RONDO’ VENEZIANO (classical oriented instrumental pop?): This is a project of Giampiero Reverberi (producer of many Italian artists like, among others,  Le Orme, New Trolls, Lucio Battisti) that is very difficult for me to define. They blend classical and modern instruments to play.

original compositions of Reverberi in classical baroque style inspired by Vivaldi and Albinoni. I suggest to check their first eponymous album (1980).

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2006 at 16:22

I would like to add some other artists:

  • GUIDO BALLO - "METRAPOLIS" (1972) - interesting record; some BALLETTO DI BRONZO musicians worked on it ( especially keyboardist Gianni Leone);
  • LUCIANO BASSO - "VOCI" (1976) - a very good keyboard player who plays a mixture of electronic and avantgarde music;
  • ENZO CAPUANO - "STORIA MAI SCRITTA" (1975) - a singer-songwriter from Calabria (southern Italy) released only one album in 1975 for the small indipendent Divergo label; an eight-part 36-minutes long suite is mostly instrumental and based on Capuano's impressive acoustic guitars, very good keyboards (Mario Panseri) and rhythm section by Giovanni D' Aquila. The result is not far from Alan Sorrenti's "Aria" or Claudio Rocchi's "Volo Magico n.1";
  • PIERPAOLO BIBBO' - "DIAPASON" (1980) - a wonderful really prog release by this Sardinian artist: large use of instruments ( especially synth ) that make this record seem a team work and not a solo album;
  • RICCARDO COCCIANTE - "MU" (1972) - even a traditional songwriter like Cocciante has had a progressive past with his wonderful "Mu" album; on this record there's such an increasing use of electronic keyboards that it could turn pale all the best Italian groups; Very nice artwork;

To be Continued...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 16:52
There is a band called 'Pooh' ?   


Maybe Anrea Cortese/ANDREW/andrea could form an Italian-prog specialists team?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 17:59

Riccardo Zappa... i´ve listened to one album of him, but i dont remember the name...

Of course prog, and i will looking for that album to buy it...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 18:01
Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

 

FABRIZIO DE ANDRE’ (Singer-songwriter):  Probably the most influent and well known Italian singer-songwriter. His live works in 1979 with PFM,  “De Andrè In concerto + PFM” Vol. 1 and 2  are two must-have. Very interesting also the eponymous album with the native American on the cover “Fabrizio De Andrè” (1981), “Creuza de mä” (1984), co-written with Mauro Pagani and sang in Genoa’s dialect, and “Anime salve” (1996), co-written with Ivano Fossati.  

 

 

Fabrizio De André , i love his voice


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 02:40

 

Well, italian progressive music was a revelation to me, you may add anyone, except Al Bano and Romina Power and Eros Ramazzotti. And of course not Sabrina!!

 

yet you still have time!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2006 at 15:57
Originally posted by RaphaelT RaphaelT wrote:

 


Well, italian progressive music was a revelation to me, you may
add anyone, except Al Bano and Romina Power and Eros Ramazzotti.
And of course not Sabrina!!


 



We forgot about Sabrina ages ago, anyway I suspect she was really
popular only in Poland...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2006 at 17:24
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2006 at 17:25

Originally posted by horza horza wrote:

There is a band called 'Pooh' ?   


Maybe Anrea Cortese/ANDREW/andrea could form an Italian-prog specialists team?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2006 at 00:14
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Originally posted by horza horza wrote:

There is a band called 'Pooh' ?   


Maybe Anrea Cortese/ANDREW/andrea could form an Italian-prog specialists team?

Embarrassed

I second that

I already suggested ANDREW be nominated as collaborator, but this idea is even better (some would say a progressive idea).

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2006 at 04:08

Ricardo Zappa is IMHO, fit to be in the Archives, (how about JR/F genre?)

 

Cociante has some horrible 90's stuff (that is the one I am unfortunately familiar with) and this means that those albums would find themselves in the Archives too, given that the entire discography must be present

Sorrenti: The name rings a bell (maybe read in references books), but like Branduardi and Batiatto, I was always guilty of searching groups rather than solo artistes. This was so for years and not just in Italians artistes

let's also avoid Zucchero



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:29
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Ricardo Zappa is IMHO, fit to be in the Archives, (how about JR/F genre?)

Sorrenti: The name rings a bell (maybe read in references books)

It's difficult to settle Zappa in a cathegory...he is a mix between JR/F, Folk and symphonic (due mainly to the classicism's references on his works)...

The most important thing is to have here on the archives...

Alan Sorrenti's first three album deserves PA's consideration, under the RIO/Avant Prog, in my opinion...Embarrassed I think the same goes also for ANDREW...

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