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Rorro 
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 Posted: February 11 2006 at 12:04 |
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By the way, who would be at the right back in Brasil?, Cafu or Cicinho ?
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 07:06 |
Cici  Cafu 
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Manunkind
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 11:41 |
 Publius84 wrote:
Poland, Poland, Poland
Poland will be the winner
Go Poland |
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memowakeman
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 12:32 |
Manunkind wrote:
Publius84 wrote:
Poland, Poland, Poland
Poland will be the winner
Go Poland |
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Manunkind
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 12:40 |
memowakeman wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
Publius84 wrote:
Poland, Poland, Poland
Poland will be the winner
Go Poland |
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Polish faith
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Sc*ew water, with this kind of faith Publius84 could walk on air !
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Trotsky
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 14:25 |
Rorro wrote:
By the way, who would be at the right back in Brasil?, Cafu or Cicinho ? |
No doubt Cafu looks past his best now ... and Cicinho looks great ...
but for sentimental reasons I would like to see him there (and win  )
... it will only further support my case when I ask for another
footballer with a more impressive trophy case ... some Cafu highlights
for you ...
1991 Brasilian League winner (Sao Paulo FC)
1992 Copa Libertadores winner (Sao Paulo FC)
1992 Intercontinental Cup winner (Sao Paulo FC)
1993 Copa Libertadores winner (Sao Paulo FC)
1993 Intercontinental Cup winner (Sao Paulo FC)
1994 World Cup winner (BRESIL)
1995 European Cup Winners Cup winner (Real Zaragoza)
1997 Copa America winner (BRESIL)
1998 World Cup finalist (BRESIL)
1999 Copa America winner (BRESIL)
2001 Serie A Champions (AS Roma)
2002 World Cup winner (BRESIL)
2003 Italian Cup finalist (AS Roma)
2003 European SuperCup winner (AC Milan)
2004 Serie A Champions (AC Milan)
2005 Champions League finalist (AC Milan)
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SolariS
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 22:26 |
football? i thought the pittsburgh steelers already won!
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Norbert
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Posted: February 16 2006 at 07:15 |
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Brazil is overwhelming. It would be nice if someone else won( not England or Gemany if it's possible please).
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sleeper
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Posted: February 16 2006 at 09:09 |
SolariS wrote:
football? i thought the pittsburgh steelers already won!
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Thats American football
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Marcelo Xanadu
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Posted: February 16 2006 at 20:42 |
With Ronaldinho and Adriano Brazil is the bigger favorite!
But Netherlands and Czech Republic are very strong too.
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Atkingani
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 11:05 |
Reviving this poll since the World Cup is almost beginning. 
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Guigo
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Man Made God
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 11:51 |
Well, this is a difficult choice, but I'm guessing my country will peak (finally).
An final against Brazil would be the most logical choice, and I can't hardly believe that we will beat them. When you've got a player like Ronaldinho in your team, your almost sure of the Cup.
But again: I'm voting for The Netherlands. We MUST reach the final, at least.
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sleeper
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 17:45 |
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Its interesting to note that England are second favourite here on PA (behinde the obvious leaders Brazil) with Italy third. I cant wait to see if any of our predictions/hopes were right.
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Publius84
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 18:23 |
memowakeman wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
Publius84 wrote:
Poland, Poland, Poland Poland will be the winner Go Poland |
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That's right Memo
You have to believe in victory 
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Atkingani
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 21:36 |
sleeper wrote:
Its interesting to note that England are second favourite here on PA (behinde the obvious leaders Brazil) with Italy third. I cant wait to see if any of our predictions/hopes were right. |
Brazil's preference surprises me too, since there are only 5-6 Brazilian visitors constantly here in PA.  Normally those whose national teams are not involved support Brazil and when their teams are eliminated people tend also to support Brazil.
In 2002, I saw in the TV something that left my eyes damp... Palestine and Israeli children together cheering for Brazil. It was much more valuable than the title itself. 
BTW, I'm afraid we'll lose... our team whenever favorite has always lost (see 1950, 1966, 1982, 1998) and when no one believes us we got the trophy (see 1958, 1962, 1994, 2002). In 1970, the story was different: there were at least 6 favorites, Brazil included, because the equilibrium was great with some incredible teams - that's why Mexico 1970 is probably the best Cup ever.
Edited by Atkingani - April 26 2006 at 21:39
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sleeper
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 08:36 |
Atkingani wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Its interesting to note that England are second favourite here on PA (behinde the obvious leaders Brazil) with Italy third. I cant wait to see if any of our predictions/hopes were right. |
Brazil's preference surprises me too, since there are only 5-6 Brazilian visitors constantly here in PA. Normally those whose national teams are not involved support Brazil and when their teams are eliminated people tend also to support Brazil.
In 2002, I saw in the TV something that left my eyes damp... Palestine and Israeli children together cheering for Brazil. It was much more valuable than the title itself.
BTW, I'm afraid we'll lose... our team whenever favorite has always lost (see 1950, 1966, 1982, 1998) and when no one believes us we got the trophy (see 1958, 1962, 1994, 2002). In 1970, the story was different: there were at least 6 favorites, Brazil included, because the equilibrium was great with some incredible teams - that's why Mexico 1970 is probably the best Cup ever.
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Its also worth noteing that Brazil and England are the only two members of the "old guard" that have really strong teams consistently (or at least when England can be bothered).
However Flossy (King Of Loss) makes a good point that Brazils European compatition record is lousy.
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MrHiccup
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 09:43 |
France will win.
My country will lose against Netherlands (3-1), and we'll be out of the World Cup (sad but true).  |
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Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends...
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Atkingani
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 10:53 |
Yes, sleeper, Brazil and England have presently the most consistent teams... but it does not mean that they will win or even reach the finals. The World Cup isn't really a championship but a knock-out tournament: a bad day, a tie with penalty kicks, a referee error, an injuried important player, etc, may cause the elimination of a favorite. For some strange reason I have the impression that a "new" champion may appear: Netherlands, Czech, Spain...
About the Brazilian record in Europe, statistics and history tell a different tale:
- Brazil is the only non-European to win in Europe (1958). No European ever won outside Europe.
- Brazil was the first South American to reach the semis in Europe (1938).
- Brazil was also 4th, in 1974 and runner-up, in 1998.
- No European has such a record in South America.
Playing against the Germans in Germany, Brazil won twice more! And if you remember last year, we won the Confederation Cup (played in Germany, again), defeating Germany and Argentina.
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Publius84
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 11:57 |
Manunkind wrote:
memowakeman wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
Publius84 wrote:
Poland, Poland, Poland Poland will be the winner Go Poland |
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Sc*ew water, with this kind of faith Publius84 could walk on air! |
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Sloth
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Posted: April 27 2006 at 14:09 |
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Being from the US i would love to see them win but let's face they
won't. We can't compete with Europe at least not until we get our
heads out of our butts and start liking a truely world wide sport and
not baseball or american football. that's why i voted England but i
wouldn't be surprised to Germany or the Netherlands win.
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