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    Posted: February 01 2006 at 06:36

six months or so ago i bought two albums on the same day, Deawing by Porcupine Tree and Frances the mute by The Mars Volta. Both were difficult to listen to in the beginning. Deadwing i struggled with and could hardly get through 4 or 5 tracks before changing the CD as the music was a little gloomy and maudlin at times. Frances on the other hand was just so dense that i could not get my head around it.

Now six months later i understand both albums better. Deadwing has some fine parts but still there are tooo many songs with a dull verse followed by a catchy chorus and throughout the album a sprinkling of classy sections followed by a return to the bland. Lazarus is the exception as it is a catchy tune from the off in the coldplay style but after 10 plays or so it becomes ho hum, a typical pop song.

Frances though has revealed many gifts, this is is an album i am glad i never gave up on. It sure helps to hear them live, what an experience, truly amazing, a throwback to the great prog bands of yesteryear in their scope and ambition.

Whilst the whole album is very good i must pay tribute to Cassandra Gemini. This is a track to take the breath away and once finished i'm looking to start it all over.

The symphonic aspect of this epic is apealing and i would love to see this played with a full orchestra someday.

I'm starting to consider this track alongside other epics such as gates of Delirium by Yes. I never thought i would hear music with such scope and grandeur played with so much energy and precision. Is this track a masterpiece? I don't know it's still early days but i'm starting to think Cassandra Gemini should be spoken of alongside the greats. Well Done The Mars Volta

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Holding within all we hope to retain
The frame will be so built to challenge the universe
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 08:51

I agree Cassandra Gemini is an epic through and through. One thing I don't like though is that my CG is broken up to tracks 5 - 12 on my cd. I'd rather just one big atmospheric chunk of symphonic grandeur!!!!!!!  oooh, that sounds good. Well I suppose it did help the first time I heard it, pretty much fell in love with it after that.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 15:12
I really like that track, it's my favorite by the band. It's good that there can still be some creative music out there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 15:17

Vismund Cygnus is almost as good!! It's such a raw f**k off kinda track

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 15:18

While I do love the song, it's not the best work they've ever done.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 17:56
I also believe it should be on the list of greatest epics.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 18:02

My favorite from Frances.  And that's saying something.  What a great album!  What a great epic!  Two thumbs up!  Can't wait to get another Mars Volta album! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 18:03
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Vismund Cygnus is almost as good!! It's such a raw f**k off kinda track

Yeah, that one's great too.  It ties L'Via for my second favorite.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 18:36
Originally posted by Syntharachnid Syntharachnid wrote:

My favorite from Frances.  And that's saying something.  What a great album!  What a great epic!  Two thumbs up!  Can't wait to get another Mars Volta album! 

 well, they've been working in their next one....from the news I've heard it's going to be a good one.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 18:41
Wow other people who feel the same way about TMV as I do.I too bought Frances The Mute and struggled with it.Persistance pays off.6 mths later I was on my own at home and gave it another spin bam! All of a sudden it hit me, I started to pick up on all the layers in this album both musically and vocal/lyrically.Cassandra Gemini-what an epic masterpiece.It now replaces Suppers Ready as my favourite.I'm going to our Australian Big Day Out music festival tomorrow and guess which band is playing-The Mars Volta.I will not miss that show for sure. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 19:05

I can't even sum up how I feel about this incredible band/album/song.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 21:00

the mars volta = amazing

cassandra geminni = amazing

everything you said = accurate

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 21:15
Cassandra Geminni is a contender for my all-time favourite song. I honestly consider it to be at least as my favourite classic prog epics. It's just one of the overall best pieces of music I've ever heard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 21:31

i feel obliged to point out, just because i'm a jerk, that you mispelled the title mister poster..."Cassandra Geminni"

Sorry I'm a jerk, and also a huge TMV fan....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 23:01

I'll just echo what everyone has said here... including king volta by pointing out that it's "Geminni," not "Gemini."

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 23:18
Cassandra Geminni has become one of my favorite songs and epics for sure.
I never thought it would be as I put off listening to the Mars Volta for a very
long time.

Supper's Ready still stands as my favorite epic (which I think will remain
unmatchable) but Cassandra Geminni is absolutely up there. As I've said
many times before, I can't wait to see what the Mars Volta has in store for us
in hopefully, a long and innovative career.
One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2006 at 23:18
Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

While I do love the song, it's not the best work
they've ever done.


 



Well than share with us. What do you think is the best work they've done?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2006 at 01:12
Incredible, i wonder how many of you were like me Yes fans? My favourite epics are Gates of Delirium, CTTE, Awaken , AYAI, Suppers ready, Karn Evil 9
There stands Olias to outward to build a ship
Holding within all we hope to retain
The frame will be so built to challenge the universe
Clasped with the skins of the fish of the plain

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2006 at 01:38
i enjoy yes, but i'm not exactly crazy about them--although the 35th Anniversary Tsongas DVD is thrilling.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2006 at 17:01
I'm glad you liked Tsongas, there are many great Yes DvD's now, they have done well in that area.
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The frame will be so built to challenge the universe
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