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    Posted: January 12 2006 at 14:05

What do you think about this Soundtrack Album?

Yesterday i listened to it in its two versions, spanish and the original with the artist of the movie, and i found it quite progressive in most of the songs, its a concept album, with constant evolution , mood changes, experimentation ,symphonic rock and a lot of beautiful passages.

I think this album should be in the archives.. do you think the same??

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Points: 2530 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 14:40
Are you referring to the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical?
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Yes, it is, but exactly im talking about the soundtrack of the movie directed by Norman Jewison

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Points: 2530 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 14:54
I remember the original album and have actually seen the stage show and the movie.

Errm - I'm not sure its actually prog
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 15:06
No definitely not. If this could be included so could virtually any Musical.
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Jeez!
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Points: 20033 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 15:17
Sorry, I'm sure Andrew Lloyd Webber is very good at what he does, but if he or anything by him ends up on this site,then it's time for me to go.
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 16:09

Yep - it's Prog alright.

It's not just a musical - it's a full-blown Rock Opera, way beyond the simplicity of "Tommy".

Almost the same goes for "Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat" - the first ever Rock Opera (it beat "Tommy" by a few months...).

And ALW's Variations is a Pure Prog album - Rock variations on a theme of Paganini, played by most of Colosseum II and other distinguished musicians?

Of course it's Prog!

 

 
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We should be clear about which version we are talking about though. The original with Ian Gillan as Jesus was not a soundtrack, it was released some years before the stage show or the film. As Cert says, it was a rock opera.

I'd agree it should be added to the Various artists section.
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I love this job
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 16:40
Ok I vote for Jerry Springer- The Opera as well!
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 16:43

Which part of that is in 7/4?
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 16:50
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Which part of that is in 7/4?

I dunno.         

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I love it!

It's an amazing piece of music, very complete, very proggy and doesn't sound like a soundtrack at all. I'd be happy to see it here
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 20:05
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Almost the same goes for "Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat" - the first ever Rock Opera (it beat "Tommy" by a few months...).

Please tell that's not true..................

We had to watch that in band class and it hurt my brain.

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No. A pop/rock classic, but a mere concept doth not a prog album make.

Again, the word "progressive" really means everything and nothing here -- why this endless mania to retroactively include so many artists and albums?

Why must all good rock be here?

WTF is "progressive" music, really? It's certainly not a genre, an era, or a sound, it seems!Confused

Too many cooks... each with his or her own recipe.Stern Smile



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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 21:06

BTW, for the record, the original JCS was NOT a movie soundtrack! The movie came later, with different artists & musicians involved.

Edit: -- whoops! This point was already made! Sorry.Embarrassed

 

 

"Progressive rock" does not really exist -- there's just rock (and now jazz, folk, world, metal....)

 

I say it again: GoodMusic Archives is what we are now.Stern Smile

 



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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 21:10
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

No. A pop/rock classic, but a mere concept doth not a prog album make.



If that were the case, Green Day would be here.
"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 21:28

We have prog folk, prog metal -- where's the prog punk, prog country, prog disco?

Some country artists (not the crap on the radio) make very involved, intelligent music, you know.

The Clash certainly progressed....

Where will it end? (It won't, of course.)

Again -- the word "progressive" as a term to categorize music, is so vague as to be all but meaningless. We have stretched the original sense of the word well beyond the breaking point, and out of all recognition.

Once more: At the very least, we need to go to straight numerical ratings -- dump the words that accompany the individual star ratings. How can an album that is only "prog related" (all western music, or at least all rock, is "prog related") be "a masterpiece of progressive music"? As it stands now, because of those words, many great albums here cannot justifiably qualify for the highest marks as a piece of art.Confused

WTF is "progressive music?"

(Purely subjective, that's what!)Stern Smile

 

Oh well -- shouting into a hurricane again...um de dum de dum....



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