John Petrucci VS. Michael Romeo

W.Chuck wrote: lol it's nothing about being honest, you chose the one you prefer, technically their are the same, MJR can tap better JP is faster, so they have both advatages and disadvantages but they are technically on the same level so it's just about which style you prefer...

Their technicality is not on the same level at all!  Has Romeo ever shown the ability to solo over a song in the duration that Petrucci does.  Has Romeo ever shown he can play solo clearly rather than in a shread style.  Has Romeo every shown any control with harmonics.  Petrucci exceeds Romeo in most all aspects of guitar.

W.Chuck wrote: lol it's nothing about being honest, you chose the one you prefer, technically their are the same, MJR can tap better JP is faster, so they have both advatages and disadvantages but they are technically on the same level so it's just about which style you prefer...

Technically, Romeo might in the field of guitarists like Vai, Malmsteen, Satriani, Johnson AND Petrucci.

But let's compare both guitarists:

Technicality- Around the same, but Romeo does the same thing a lot of times. (Ie NeoClassical solos) TIE

Emotional Playing- Even though Romeo is far more emotional than guitarists per say like Mr. Yngwie, but still can not obtain the level that guitarists like Johnson and Vai do. Petrucci does have his times of mindless shredding (actually a lot), but his solos are slightly more emotional than Romeo's often mindless shredding. PETRUCCI

Variation- Without explaining: PETRUCCI

These three factors for me, makes a good guitarist and Petrucci has exceeded Romeo in almost every department, except for maybe Technicality.

FragileDT wrote: Has anyone heard An evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess? That's a great thing to bring up in a discussion like this. Do you think Romeo would come out with something such as that? It is brilliantly composed and sounds nothing like the Dream Theater style. Petrucci is a much better player.

Romeo would solo all the way through and then shred like a beast.

W.Chuck wrote: ... How often does JP shred? more often than MJR, and MJR never went too fast because he knows when to stop, maybe king of terrors but never get so furious like JP, and MJR has no emotion? have you ever heard the solo in candlelight fantasia or lady of the snow and to the technical aspect: MJR's tapping is better, his string skipping is better, he's a much better improviser, not like JP who rarely improvises and MJR plays as clean as JP, I've never heard any slop in his solos, the only one I know, where it is a bit sloppy is the live solo of the first solo in TDWOT, but when you imagine that he changes from the 6. to the 1. string in that tempo, it's no shame at all... And pls listen to a solo by MJR a few more times or listen to them! because like the music I understood the solos far better after I listened to them more often.

That post looks like a bunch of rhetoric to me.  John Petrucci keeps mindless shreadding to a minimum in Dream Theater and in JP and JR.  There is a difference between mindless shreadding and musical technique.  Petrucci is often on the side of musical technique.  Nicolo Paganini was a musician who played extremely fast for his solos, did anyone accuse that violinist of mindless shreadding?  Mike Romeo does mindless shread.  Look at Smoke and Mirrors, look at Sea of Lies, look at almost any heavy song Symphony X has ever done, and the solo is sloppy mindless shreadding.  Mike Romeo is not my idea of an emotional guitarist considering that so many of his solos are pretty much neo-classical solos which are not based off of emotion.  Romeo's solos lack structure.  It sounds like he just put a bunch of notes in a song and there's a solo.  Petrucci uses an awful lot of vocal motifs in his solos to make them fit the song better.  Scenes From a Memory and some parts of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence feature quite a bit of this.  John Petrucci is the much superior impoviser here.  Let's not forget John Petrucci attended Berklee, quite possibly the most famous jazz school in the US.  I don't think Berklee would allow Petrucci to enter if he couldn't improvise.  Petrucci also improvises quite a bit live.  Do I need to remind you of the Hollow Years solo or the additional solo at the end of In the Name of God.  I know of Petrucci's impovisation.  I don't know if Romeo ever improvises live.

THERE IS NO WAY ROMEO'S PLAYING CAN EVER BE CONSIDERED AS CLEAN AS PETRUCCI'S MY ENTIRE POST AND POSTS THROUGHOUT THIS THREAD ARE CONTESTING THAT ALL THE TIME!!!!!

Lossy.. leave it...

There's no way You're gonna convince him... Know the word fanaticism? Allah Akbar and stuff...

All of Chucks replies are totally the same... just leave it...

Plato was quite a wise man... His theories make quite a lot of sense right now...

Ed_The_Dead wrote: AtLossForWords wrote: Ed_The_Dead wrote: Lossy.. leave it... There's no way You're gonna convince him... Know the word fanaticism? Allah Akbar and stuff... All of Chucks replies are totally the same... just leave it... Plato was quite a wise man... His theories make quite a lot of sense right now... You don't know just how much i love Plato do you?  (total Platonic dialouge fanboy over here) Ye know, I mean that whole theory with the man being shackled in a dark cave facing a black wall, not knowing what the hell is happening behind, outside in the beautiful wilderness... (Hope You get my reference)

Book VII of the Republic, the allegory of the cave!

Well, my vote goes to Michael Romeo, I really like his neoclassical stuff and his overall style.

And W.Chuck, I think you are right, all the people here seems to be freaky dream theater fans that

adore john petrucci in every way. I would really like too hear you playing such a solo of Michael Romeo, shredding seems to be so easy for you, please record one and send it to me, I thínk this will be a great laugh  .

Furthermore, whats the sense of the poll "The Lamb"? It's useless and I think we aren't in position to discuss who is better, I think even they wouldn't know it, a question like "Michael Romeo-John Petrucci...WHO IS BETTER?" can't be answered, because you just know what you hear! You don't know what they both can play (they may don't use anything or you just haven't heard it yet) and please tell me "Mr.AtLossForWords", how do you define mindless shredding, I would really like to know it because you don't think john petruccis shred are senseless, so why are Michael Romes shreds mindless? They are more controlled than petrucci's and are well considered!

chuck, you cant convert the dream theater zombies.

They will never understand :)

Just let the fanboys have their way. 40% is pretty decent concidering how many dt fan boys dominate this forum.

its like when people say octavarium owns everything symx has done.

what a joke :P